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07/02/2009 Entry: "MISC.ALLICA"
ESP Guitars has announced that James' Truckster guitar will be available in black this fall. Hopefully, they'll be a little more affordably priced then the last couple of ESP Signature series from James and Kirk (James' Iron Cross and Kirk's latest Ouija's went for almost $10,000 each).
...and catching up...
Tickets went on sale yesterday, July 1st for the Mill Valley Film Festival at the Smith Rafael Film Center where Lars will present a special screening and discussion of "The Five Obstructions." It happens on Wednesday, September 2.
The previously mentioned DVD's of Metallica's upcoming Paris gig and already shot Mexico City show have fans scratching their heads. The Parsian show has a release date of October 19 in France (and Metallica.com)... it was already known that this DVD would be a French-only item. The Mexican show has yet to have any release date... however, Metallica.com states: "For our friends in Latin America, stay tuned for more details about the release of the Mexico City shows on DVD." Which seems to imply that this will be a Latin America release only... it was thought that this show would have a wider release (unlike the French show).
The show in Ottawa has been pushed back a couple days to make way for "very cool event coming up around that time." Speculation is that Metallica will appear at the Voodoo Festival in New Orleans.
Lamb of God will be the opening act for the fall leg of the North American tour.
An editted version of All Nightmare Long has been heard on the airways in the US. Have you heard it?
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if I missed anything important, let me know... k, thanks.
Posted by IS-JD @ 07/02/2009 11:31 PM EST

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1st Biaches
Posted by F1XXX3R @ 07/03/2009 09:33 AM EST

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I've never heard an edited version of All Nightmare Long on the radio.
"Radio? "Pfft, ha ha. Who needs a radio?" "Ready Harry?" "Mock...Yeah...Ing...Yeah...Bird..."
Sorry, folks, some Lines from Dumb & Dumber popped in my head and I couldn't resist.
Posted by Thingy @ 07/03/2009 09:56 AM EST

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I heard it on the Rif when I was visiting my in-laws in Michigan. It's still a good mix but I prefer the album version. They cut out alot of the chugging in the beginning and the later part of the song. They took out about a good 2 mins total.
Posted by MONSTER @ 07/04/2009 12:08 PM EST

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They still have music on regular radio? I thought they had just switched to commercials broken up with occasional rants from politically obsessed mental patients. Liquid Metal on Sirius XM plays the full version. No commercials.
Posted by Azrael @ 07/04/2009 01:20 PM EST

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Can't wait to get a new car with Sirius. I cannot stand listening to the radio. In NY, there are no real hard rock stations that come in clear to me, just Q104.3 classic rock which is cool....but nothing new/hard
Posted by MONSTER @ 07/04/2009 08:27 PM EST

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We only got two stations here, one is all country, Hank Williams Sr. era and the other is a church radio...
Posted by Yukoner @ 07/05/2009 05:03 PM EST

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The set list for the Nimes concert:
Blackened Creeping Death Fuel Harvester Of Sorrow Fade to Black Broken, Beat And Scarred Cyanide Sad But True One All Nightmare Long The Day That Never Comes Master Of Puppets Dyers Eve Nothing Else Matters Enter Sandman - - - - - - - - Stone Cold Crazy Motorbreath Seek and Destroy
It's a good set list, but considering it's for a DVD, I'm a little disappointed that we didn't either get more from DM or more rarities. I think outside of Dyers, all the non DM stuff is already on a live DVD.
Posted by Trace @ 07/07/2009 06:36 PM EST

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In opening acts news, French band Gojira will be the second opening act for Metallica on the Fall North American tour through October 18th. And then after that Danish band Volbeat will take over that slot. Also, Lamb of God won't be able to do the December concerts so it looks like another band will be brought in then.
Posted by Trace @ 07/08/2009 09:13 PM EST

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I think it would've been cool if for the traditional cover song in the encore they threw out Remember Tomorrow or something very rare like that. I also noticed they played songs for this DVD that Kirk typically hits the solos live on. Probably don't wanna sound sloppy on a live DVD...
Posted by marcus @ 07/09/2009 10:57 AM EST

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I noticed on the new Metontour vids that they're using new mics. The backup vocals are also getting a lot better.
Posted by Thingy @ 07/11/2009 11:07 AM EST

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im positive drums, lead guitar and vocals are gonna be way fixed in the studio for the upcoming dvd releases...
Posted by XINO @ 07/13/2009 04:44 PM EST

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Definitely vocals, and probably drums as well- hearing James's voice these days bums me out. Having said that, I think instrumentally James, Kirk and Rob are still very tight.
Posted by caspian @ 07/15/2009 05:55 AM EST

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So we now know why the Ottawa gig was moved. Metallica will be taking part in the 25th Anniversary Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Concerts on October 29th and 30th at Madison Square Garden. 9 Hall of Fame acts to play over the two nights with Metallica set to play on the 30th along with Eric Clapton, Aretha Franklin and U2.
Okay, they have to do something with Clapton, right? More info by following the link.
http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=602461
Posted by Trace @ 07/22/2009 01:57 PM EST

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OK, I get it... U2 is the biggest band in the world, except maybe the Stones. But I pity them just a bit having to follow that act. I doubt having the Black Eyed Peas open for you is quite the challenge that will come from a band that generally leaves fans exhausted, deaf, and (worse) ready to leave. Of course, it's unlikely to be a full-on show, and the golf-clapping polo shirt crowd probably won't show up until after Metallica, but still... gotta be a little scary.
Posted by Azrael @ 07/22/2009 07:17 PM EST

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Going to be a rather interesting gig, to say the least- Metallica are a huge odd one out there.
Here's hoping they eschew their hits and just play the meanest, most intense set list possible. Come on So What and Last Caress!
Posted by caspian @ 07/23/2009 09:57 AM EST

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And then there was just one song from DM that hasn't been played live.
Metallica played Suicide & Redemption tonight in Copenhagen.
Posted by Trace @ 07/27/2009 05:08 PM EST

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On the 5th and final night in Copenhagen the big surprise was that Metallica played their version of Ecstasy of Gold. While I was hoping for something really out there like Fixxxer or Frayed Ends, they ended up playing 49 different songs over the five nights. For a band that plays 18 songs a night that's pretty damn good.
Posted by Trace @ 07/28/2009 11:30 PM EST

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I was thinking about that. Maybe when they eventually retire and have a farewell show series, they can pull out all the songs they have never performed live.
Posted by manguy @ 07/29/2009 08:34 AM EST

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There's been some great performances on MetonTour from the last few shows. Fire with Fire was very good, and a lot of practicing Dyers in tuning. Worth checking out. Nimes just looks like the oddest cool venue ever.
Posted by Azrael @ 07/29/2009 02:10 PM EST

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thing of beauty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kh4OJdyLIc
this is the show where they famously had to stop while security tried to calm the crowd. Scared the bejeezus out of Kingdom Clone
Posted by Azrael @ 07/30/2009 12:16 AM EST

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that was awesome Azrael...wish it was the whole thing.
Posted by Mark @ 07/30/2009 10:24 AM EST

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Metallica's official web site has been updated with the following message:
"We've been enjoying playing 'My Apocalypse' out here on the road but felt like it could use something extra. We decided that it needed a cool intro to set the mood so James [Hetfield, vocals/guitar] wrote one. Check out and enjoy this free download... and make sure you learn it for singing along at a future show!"
http://www.livemetallica.com/live-music/0,321/Metallica-mp3-flac-download-7-23-2009-Forum-Copenhagen-DEN.html
Posted by NoCreativeNameGuy @ 08/01/2009 09:30 AM EST

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it's a pretty strange intro- it works well enough as a lead in, I guess, but yeah- rather unusual, to say the least.
Posted by caspian @ 08/01/2009 08:24 PM EST

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Wow... Seeing James and Kirk as hyperlinks in this article stood out and made me realize - whoa, of all these years of being a huge Metallica fan and a huge Star Trek fan, it never dawned on me that if you put James and Kirk together, you get James Kirk, as in Captain James T. Kirk! Thats just ridonkulous I never saw that until now...
Posted by D-J @ 08/07/2009 03:17 PM EST

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Things got real quiet on the Metallica front.. I wonder when the next studio album will kick out, I bet we're in for a long wait. 4 studio albums in the 80's, 3 in the 90's 2 so far in the 2000's does that mean we're in for one more? I hope not, let's hope they kick a few more out.
Posted by Yukoner @ 08/10/2009 09:54 PM EST

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The end of the Electra/WB contract means they are free to release songs/albums as they see fit. The online DVD release probably gives us an idea of how we're going to see future releases working. Then again, does online only album sales provide enough revenue to pay for their outrageously expensive studio costs? They won't have to share distribution $$$ with a record company if they only release online, so maybe. I'd hate to see a future where we get one (or a few) song(s) at a time, but that's because I grew up in the era of having an LP in my hands. Talking out my ass here, will be interesting to see where they take it.
Posted by Azrael @ 08/11/2009 12:05 AM EST

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Of course, the studios would be less expensive if they didn't spend such an unnecessarily long time in them.
Posted by caspian @ 08/11/2009 05:00 AM EST

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I am pretty sure they're not running into money issues at this point...
Posted by Marcus @ 08/11/2009 09:19 AM EST

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Rest in Peace, Maestro!
Posted by EPDA @ 08/13/2009 05:45 PM EST

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Funny: listened to Megadeth's Head Crusher on Youtube. Verse riff reminds me of Trapped under ice main riff.
Posted by MORE BEER @ 08/14/2009 12:04 PM EST

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Yeah, Megadeth gave us a sneak preview when I went to the Canadian Carnage show in Edmonton, I got a Trapped Under Ice feel too. Fun song live though
Posted by Yukoner @ 08/15/2009 01:15 PM EST

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I recently purchased the new Metallica album. I just have one question for you die hard Metallica fans out there. What's with Death Magnetic sounding so much like old school Metallica albums? I've played it a lot and I do enjoy it, but I am disappointed and let down. It's a good album but I wouldn't call it great. Death Magnetic is a great name for an album though...dare i say too good for this album. Maybe I expected too much from The Mighty Metallica and Rick Rubin collaboration.
St. Anger may sound like shitty music to some, but at least it was new, refreshing and BOLD. I wouldn't exactly call Death Magnetic a bold move, more like an OLD move.
I actually like the albums they did with Bob Rock quite a bit. Experimenting and exploring new sounds, going in musical directions that no metal band has ever gone before...taking chances and taking risks.
I loved Metallica a lot more when they moved forward and not backwards.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/17/2009 10:51 PM EST

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Thanks for taking the time to read my post...carry on.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/17/2009 10:54 PM EST

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Obvious Troll is Obvious
Posted by Azrael @ 08/17/2009 11:03 PM EST

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old and tired meme is old and tired
Posted by caspian @ 08/18/2009 06:05 AM EST

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Yeah I know what you're thinking, "not another whiny post by some unsatisfied fanboy." I'm gonna take a chance here and possibly bore the shit out of you again.
Didn't mean to come across as a Metallica basher and/or troll, which I'm not. I was not trying to be disrespectful towards Metallica and/or the fans. I 'm a fan too.
Considering the album title "DEATH MAGNETIC" and the song titles, I was just expecting a totally different sounding album. I thought it was going to have a darker/heavier, Black Sabbath, Doom/Groove metal kind of sound. Similar to songs like The Thing That Should Not Be, Sad But True and Some Kind Of Monster but even slower, muddier and sludgier than those songs. A totally brand new Metallica sound with one or two radio friendly balladlike tracks.
Another thing, I kind a hoped Hetfield's vocals and guitar sound were going to blow my mind and really like freak me out. Instead, i felt they were both mediocre sounding. Call me what you want, but I prefer how Bob Rock produces the vocals, guitars and drums over Rick Rubins production. Maybe both producers should team up for Metallica's next album, that way they can find a way to please all fans...or not because it's a dumb idea, it's totally unrealistic and it would never happen.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/20/2009 12:19 AM EST

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I'd certainly take Bob Rock over Rick Rubin in terms of production. Bob captured some amazing guitar and drum tones in his time with the band, that's for sure.
And I wouldn't mind if Metallica did go on a completely different direction next album (whenever the hell that is).. While it was good for them to return to the fast and vicious sound of old, they were pretty obviously pandering to their fans. Hopefully the next one's one hell of a lot weirder.. But it'll suck if it's like Thingy/Sad/Monster, as all of those songs were terrible.
Posted by caspian @ 08/20/2009 04:55 AM EST

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Conclusion....
YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYONE!
This is why Metallica has always made music for themselves first. If they kept checking in to see if everyone was happy and what they wanted to hear, it would have drove them to the bin years ago.
Posted by manguy @ 08/20/2009 08:08 AM EST

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Well, that's the point I'm making, manguy. Their newest was their first example of them making music for their fans, as opposed to themselves. Was still a cracking album, of course.
Posted by caspian @ 08/20/2009 10:14 AM EST

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Well, regarding DM, I just take note that they have played 9 of 10 songs from it already. I think they haven't played UIII because they will probably wait until they release it as a single(which I suspect they will).
They haven't played that many songs from one release since puppets(unless you consider the 1/2 of frayed ends and therefore have only not played to live is to die from justice). Oddly enough, in the latest So What magazine Robert said he's recently learned Frayed ends beginning to end, although he doubts it will be played.
The point of all this is that I think they feel this is their first music that fits in totally comfortably with the back catalogue in a long time.
Posted by kurt @ 08/20/2009 04:01 PM EST

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On other fronts, really looking forward to the new Halloween movie, as well as the new AIC, megadeth and slayer tunes.
I was looking forward to the new Anthrax record, but who the hell knows what is going to happen with them. Their best bet will be for Bush to stay with them. I kind of hope he does, but at the same time would applaud him for telling them to fuck off.
And how about this back and forth between mustaine and scott ian about whether or not scott told him that cliff and james were gonna fire lars? They both lie their ass off, so who knows what the truth is there?
Posted by kurt @ 08/20/2009 04:07 PM EST

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Well put caspian. I like the way you think.
DM is a solid Metallica album created for the fans for the most part, you can't deny that. It needed to be made, I get that. That being said, what made me a loyal fan of Metallica in the first place was them writing original music for themselves. I just want them to be more true to themselves on the next album. Follow their hearts like they have in the past. Create another new and amazing Metallica sound. I don't care if it's slow and/or fast or a really strange, weird or twisted sounding album, as long as they keep it real and make it 100% authentic and original.
Yeah I understand you can't please all fans...I would like to see Metallica to get back to pleasing themselves only and not worry so much about what the fans want.
"If you build it, they will come."
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/20/2009 11:43 PM EST

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I guess I am just curious as to where you guys got quotes from the band saying stuff like "we wrote DM for the fans" or "we don't write from our hearts anymore"????
Just because many fans have been begging for this sorta sound again doesn't mean they finally gave into it.
Posted by manguy @ 08/21/2009 08:24 AM EST

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I'm with you manguy. Saying this was written just for the fans is using the same general ignorance(in reverse) that lead some people to say the load records were them jumping on the bandwagon of the time.
They may have been lying, but they have stated that this is the direction they naturally steered back towards.
Regardless of the "reason", I'm glad they did it. Just as I'm glad Mustaine got heavier again, that Ozzy made Ozzmosis(underrated) after the very poppy No More Tears, that Priest made Painkiller after a couple of "poppy" outings.
Hell, I wish Aerosmith's next record would be a bit grittier as compared to the last decade plus, and I would not care whether they did it for themselves, or for the fans. As long as it was good.
Posted by kurt @ 08/21/2009 08:45 AM EST

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I don't think Metallica gave in and decided to write DM for the fans. I think they took some elements from Lightning, Master and Justice and kind of blended them. Regardless, I think DM is a great album and it hasn't left my CD player very long.
Posted by Thingy @ 08/21/2009 12:43 PM EST

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I'm a little surprised that people think Metallica made DM solely for the fans for whatever reason. They have been experimenting since the black album and once you do so much, you tend to go back to what really feels good. Thats what happened with DM. It was actually Rick Rubin who told them to go back to the Ride/Puppets mentality and act like you have to something to prove. While it's not a mirror image if puppets, I think it's brilliant and want to hear more new stuff from them. Like Thingy, it hasn't left my car at all since I bought it a year ago.
Posted by MONSTER @ 08/21/2009 02:02 PM EST

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Yeah, Rick did mention that the mission of the band was to pretend they were trying to get signed to a record deal.
Not too many people have talked about the new My Apocalyse intro around here, but I kind of like it. I bet it sounds really awesome over the PA with thousands of fans. It reminds me of Bells, obviously, but it makes me think the guys still have a lot of fuel in the tank. I wonder why we got this instead of Shine...I want to hear this song!
I've said it many times before, along with others here, I just wonder about all the stuff they've come up with we haven't heard. I would guess these guys come up with new riffs, melodies and drum patterns all the time. I even do and can't play my own guitar. I haven't taken the time to learn it properly. I think Rob has added a lot of spark to Metallica's fire, too.
Posted by Thingy @ 08/21/2009 02:48 PM EST

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"It was actually Rick Rubin who told them to go back to the Ride/Puppets mentality and act like you have to something to prove."
Ok, so they wrote this album for Rick. That's probably worse then writing one for your fans.
Posted by caspian @ 08/21/2009 07:37 PM EST

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A lot of fans drinking out of the cup of denial around here.
Due to Metallica's rock bottom/near death experience of St. Anger(very underrated album, in my opinion) the band, for the first time in their whole career finally caved in to their fans. Metallica tried with the best of their ability to give the fans what they've wanted since the AJFA album, with the help and guidance of Rick Rubin of course. Q-prime and Warner were most likely pushing them in that direction too.
If you want to call Metallica sell outs, now's the time and it would make a lot more sense. Logical thing to do if you're into that sort of thing. They created an album which already has a built in audience of multi-millions around the globe. If done right, you could almost call Death Magnetic a full proof/safe bet and not a gamble or a risk by any stretch of the imagination, from a business stand point. As far as great and talented musicians go, Metallica are pros, the elite and they delivered a professionally sounding, true to their roots metal album. It's not anything new for Metallica...think about it.
I want Metallica's next album to be something they haven't already done before.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/21/2009 10:56 PM EST

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By the way, that little minute and a half new intro for My Apocalypse we've all heard by now is the direction Metallica should have taken for Death Magnetic. They should have gone darker, way darker...I hoping that is a hint of what's to come for the next album.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/21/2009 11:51 PM EST

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Acillatem,
What you have is a solid opinion, nothing more. Just like the rest of us. Once you start treating your opinion as fact you are walking in very dangerous territory.
People have built conspiracy theories around circumstancial evidence, nothing more. In other words, rather then get the answer from the horses mouth (an autoritative answer from Metallica in this case), they simply build their own case and try to prove it is robust.
Truth is, your theory is full of holes.
But hey, that's just my opinion.
Posted by manguy @ 08/22/2009 09:36 AM EST

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NO caspian...it was Rick's idea. A producer is also supposed to help the band go in a direction or find a certain sound. He has done that with almost every artist he produced. Metallica wrote this album for themselves like they have done since '83, but they had that same mentality and hunger to make DM as they did when they made Puppets.
Posted by MONSTER @ 08/22/2009 09:48 AM EST

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I really, really doubt they had anywhere near the same hunger with DM as they did with Puppets. That's just extremely silly.
I don't really see how Acillablahblah's theory is full of holes, really.. care to point them out? For the most part, I agree with everything he's saying- except that St.Anger is underrated; I think it got the pasting it deserved.
I too hope that their next album, whenever that is (hopefully before 2013) is weird, heavy and another large risk. Really, DM is the only album in their entire career (even the black album was a risk) where Metallica played it completely safe.
Posted by caspian @ 08/22/2009 12:22 PM EST

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I always thought Death Magnetic was Metallica not so much playing it safe, but more just having a good time, putting out some good riffs and great jams and not taking themselves too seriously. Personally I liked the direction they wee going on Load and Reload, but I was really pleased with DM, St. Anger I wasn't too big on, but I think it was the most honest album metallica had put out. I guess with DM they were treading on safe and familiar ground but I think it was more for the sake of having fun at that point in their career than to appease the fans. But I do agree I hope they go in a different direction again on their next effort, I wonder tohugh since they will be hitting close to 50 then what their sounds will be like. With most older bands (Priest, Maiden) kicking out their heaviest albums in their later years I can see MEtallica really blowing our minds once more.
Posted by Yukoner @ 08/22/2009 02:57 PM EST

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did it ever cross anyone's mind that this could be the first serious album recorded on pro-tools. the limitations are endless with that kind of software. they had free range of exploring a new avenue of recording. i remember reading somewhere before they anounced they were in the process of recording that they were going to record onto analog, but i guess that was only a floating idea. way back on year and a half, they had those shoddy computer moniters with the levels and tracks and shit, lars said something about not having to play drums on the next album with that kinda technology. now that is a reality and i would be suspect to the fact that they were trying to see what exactly they could have accomplished with such a recording medium. not that they cheated or anything but c'mon, on UIII that high note is just so damn perfect(like his life) i can hear the auto-tune very slightly, i hope i'm wrong but that is what i hear. none the less, i am completely satisfied with the album with no regaurd as to "why" they did what they did
Posted by Curtis Moon @ 08/22/2009 09:56 PM EST

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I agree with you Yukoner...and it's impossible for them to have the same hunger as in '86 but the idea was to come close and I think they did.
Posted by MONSTER @ 08/23/2009 12:55 PM EST

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My opinion is simply that, if you care to agree, fine and if you care to disagree...well then...I guess that's fine too. What you've been reading is a well thought out opinion on the subject of Metallica's latest musical creation. If you feel I'm laying out the facts for you, that would be your problem and not mine.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/23/2009 11:25 PM EST

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As far as hunger is concerned, no, I don't think they can currently be as "hungry" as the old days. However, I think they were extremely "hungry" or motivated to prove that they could still make a kick ass metal record.
I also think too many people are saying it had to this or that reason why they went in this direction. I think it was this AND that.
What I mean is: 1. I think they wanted to go back in a heavier direction when they made st. anger(which didn't go over so well overall). 2. Now they have a new bass player who openly stated he prefered their older catalogue(an effect similar to scott travis joining judas priest and giving them somewhat of an outsider view). 3. They go out and do the 20th anniversary thing for MOP which really re-aquaints them with that vibe. 4. They pick a new producer who has a preference for the older stuff. 5. And yes, despite denials, they probably also take into account that many of the fans were clamoring for something more like the old stuff and less like the loads.
I think all of these factors lead to the sound of this record. I also think the fact that they are playing so many of these songs live indicates that this is where they are most comfortable at this point in time, regardless of why you think they made them this way(you hear any st. anger tunes live anymore?).
Side note: not that it really matters to anyone here, but yesterday I missed death by about a foot and a half and a second or so. High speed police chase of a Jeep Cherokee on the WRONG side of the highway and this sonofabitch was coming straight at me at about 100 mph. I noticed just in time and picked the right direction to zig. Had I zagged I don't think I(or my wife and kids) were surviving 80mph meeting 100mph head on. Crazy shit.
Posted by kurt @ 08/24/2009 07:17 AM EST

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Called sellouts when RTL came out cause they had an acustic guitar as an intro.
Called sellouts when AJFA came out because they made a video.
Called sellouts when the Black album came out cause it had slow songs.
Called sellouts when Loads came out cause it was to radio friendly.
Called sellouts when DM came out cause their just playing it safe.
Just enjoy the damn ride that is called Metallica... trust me it's a great one.
Posted by NoCreativeNameGuy @ 08/24/2009 10:17 PM EST

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Kurt, I don't know you man, but I'm glad you and your family dodged death yesterday. Now that you've lived to tell about your near death experience, I hope this has had an huge impact on you and you have been or will be giving your family an extra heavy dose of love,hugs and kisses on a daily basis.
You had yourself a close call and a important reminder (for everyone) of the fragility of life. You can be here and alive one minute doing very important work like discussing a Metallica album and then like dead the next minute, gone forever...
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/24/2009 11:29 PM EST

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...back to Metallica
Truth is, Metallica's not the boss anymore, the fans are. They run the show now, in the studio and even on the stage.
But hey, that's just my opinion. I'll explain.
For the first time, the fans are in the drivers seat now...shit, Metallica basically gave them the keys and the car too. The fans are in total control now, like it or not. Had the fans embraced St.Anger's sound like they've embraced Death Magnetic's sound, the Death Magnetic album you know today would seize to exist. It would be a totally different sounding album. The train wreck that St.Anger is for most fans was a huge reality check/wake up call for Metallica. No fans of our new music, no more relevant Metallica. The fans have always wanted Metallica to be a heavy band again and Metallica wanted to finally be a heavy band again who are still considered champions of heavy metal and of course, St.Anger didn't prove that on or off the stage. Again(similar to both Load and Re-Load), even though it was heavy this time, the fans still didn't appreciate Metallica straying so far away from Metallica's heavy metal sound of the 80's. So yeah, the fan rejection of St.Anger spawned the birth of Death Magnetic as you know it today. St.Anger changed the course of Metallica's musical direction for better or worse. I'm okay with that, really, I'm enjoying the Metallica ride...I just hope in 2013 we're not listening to Death Magnetic 2.
St.Anger should be one of the most important albums to any true, hardcore fan of the Death Magnetic album. St.Anger gave us Death Magnetic...they go hand in hand.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/24/2009 11:52 PM EST

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Good to hear youre alive Kurt. I had a near death experience myself a few months back and since we're sharing.. in January I was on an airline called Zest air flying from Manila to a local town...long story short, the pilot was a moron and didnt realize it was too windy to land and tried to land anyways. So we crashed short of the runway and smashed into a cement wall. Luckily no one was killed...i feel so lucky to be alive now though for sure after that.
Posted by Mark @ 08/25/2009 12:12 AM EST

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Thanks for the remarks. It was just a crazy thing.
Regarding St. Anger: I liked it and still do. I would have preferred the following on it:
1). solos in the songs that it fit properly(as in the live versions of frantic, dirty window, sweet amber).
2). either more lyrics(too repetitive in st. anger, invisible kid), or edit the songs to be shorter and eliminate the repetitiveness.
As far as the famous "snare", I thought it fit a lot of the songs just fine.
A quote from a mustaine article on blabbermouth:
"So I got No. 16 and I saw Hetfield. I thought, "Wow," because I respect James. I'm a better lead player than he is, but he's one of the three best rhythm players in the world."
I gripe when he bitches non-stop, so I've got to give him credit for saying this.
Posted by kurt @ 08/25/2009 02:03 PM EST

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James is still the #1 rhythm guitar player in my books and Death Magnetic proves that further.
Hey guys don't get me wrong, I love Metallica, always have and I always will...shit, I'd go as far as saying I love Metallica more than both my mother and father... serious. There's just something about the Death Magnetic album...on the surface it appears to be a really great, sincere, genuine and honest Metallica album, but I think if you look deeper, you'll see it for what it really is... a slave to the fans album.
It's just that when I first played Death Magnetic, one of the first things that popped into my mind was...I know who's calling the shots now and it's not Metallica, it's their fans. The fans are in charge now. Metallica finally let the fans be the boss. I guess you could say it's a win win situation for both Metallica and the fans. I thought it was pretty obvious that Metallica was looking to feel accepted again by their own fans of the old school sound. Metallica wanted to feel like they still have want it takes to be branded Gods of Metal and on top of that make millions of dollars more from album/tour sales. Most fans can't resist buying Death Magnetic, it's basically Metallica back to their original form, musically speaking. Lords knows the fans have been deprived from that sorta sound for far too long and to hear the new songs played live, the fans would line up for days and pay enormous amounts of cash to hear them.
So, who's the boss?
No, not Metallica, not anymore... that's right, you said it... the fans are the boss now and guess what, apparently Metallica's okay with that. How about you, are you okay with the fans being the boss now???
It only took Metallica 20 years to figure out who the real boss is, I wonder why it took them so long?... stubborn buggers.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/25/2009 10:43 PM EST

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Sorry if it's a repost, but 3 dudes are doing a great job remastering Death Magnetic, so far they got TDTNC & The Judass Kiss and both songs sound fcuking awesome, much better than Ruck Rubbing's fcuked up CD version. check it out: http://exit-reality.com/marckiii.htm
Posted by $trangeR @ 08/26/2009 06:48 AM EST

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Kinda sounds like the GH versions that you can download on torrent.
Posted by Mark @ 08/26/2009 09:40 AM EST

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Manguy are you going to man up or what. How much time do you need feel comfortable enough to point out the holes in my theory? No one likes a swiss cheese theory, I understand that. But I guess you've finally come to your senses and now see it my way.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/26/2009 11:33 PM EST

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Manguy, I'm not looking for a fight. I just want to see what you don't like about my swiss cheese theory...so don't be scared to write back.
I like a good healthy and friendly discussion, is all.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/26/2009 11:46 PM EST

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Acillatem,
Dude, who cares and quit with the conspiracies, please. I love DM. It's a kick ass album no matter who or what inspired them to make it. Would you rather Metallica just disappeared and quit making music all together, 'cause that was the other option. Yeah St.Anger nose dived and fell flat on it's face, but I'm glad it did. Look what happened next, the album Death Magnetic rises from the ashes of St.Anger's self destruction. St.Anger was a great demo album, a good start to a great album, but they never should of released it in that condition and both Bob Rock and Metallica should have known better. St.Anger didn't deserve to be branded a Metallica album whereas Death Magnetic fits in perfectly with the rest of Metallica's catalogue. Bob Rock was great with Metallica's hard rock sound(TBA,LOADS,GARAGE INC.), but he doesn't know what a true metal album should sound like and Rick Rubin does for the most part. The St.Anger experience only made Metallica want to work that much harder on the next album, which they did and you should appreciatre that, I do. Metallica came back with a vengeance and they did it without losing any integrity. Metallica has never done the same album twice(LOADS don't count, they were written at around same time and were originally intended to be released as a double album, still wish they would of done that instead of individually and just called the whole thing LOAD, a LOAD of Metallica in your hand.) In regards to DM's sound, Metallica did create a new and amazing sound, what album have you been listening to. DM has moments of old school Metallica, that's it. It's not a direct copy of the older albums by any means. It's a new and refreshuing sound all on it's own and unlike any other Metallica album. DM is a an original sounding Metallica album. Of course it's a bold move for them, think about it, they're not exactly spring chickens anymore. Most fans, especially after St.Anger, figured Metallica were done and washed up. Not many of them thought they could make another great metal album. But they did, they pulled it off and wiped the smiles right off of their faces. Most heavy metal musicians half of Metallica's age couldn't even dream of making an metal album half as good as DM. Looking at Metallica's track record, I'm positive the next album will be another new and amazing sound. Right now, DM sits on top as my most played and favorite album of Metallica or any other band for that matter.
Posted by Carpe DM @ 08/28/2009 12:07 AM EST

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Carpe DM, I respect your opinion and just about agree with everything you're saying for the most part. I'll cool it on the conspiracy theories if you promise to cool it down a bit and not come across as so whinylike, deal? I really like the part you mentioned about St.Anger being a good start (to what could of been) a great album.
St.Anger is the great WHAT IF album. What if it was perfectly produced like the other Metallica and Bob Rock collaborations. Metallica and Bob Rock should of given it the fine tuning and finishing touches it required to be called a Metallica record.
I still feel Metallica was committing suicide with their career for the last 20 years and now they're trying their absolute best to redeem themselves. As good as the Hard Rock Metallica (Bob Rock collaborations) is, I think Metallica was slowly killing themselves and pushing their true Metal fans further and further away from them. I think Metallica has realized that too and are now trying hard as hell to win their fans back who helped make them who they are today. After 20 years, I think Metallica is finally showing gratitude towards the fans of Metallica of the 80's.
Metallica's career has been SUICIDE AND REDEMPTION.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/28/2009 11:31 PM EST

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By the way, SUICIDE AND REDEMPTION is my absolute favorite/best track on Death Magnetic. I can't get enough of it, I play it all the time, every chance I get, it's such a great tune and I think it's one of the best tracks I've ever heard by Metallica... the secret's been revealed, I have love for Death Magnetic.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/28/2009 11:39 PM EST

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Dude, just wanted to say you make a lot of sense and you're probably one of the coolest and smartest Metallica fans on the planet. I'm not even joking, I'm being totally serious. I'll be the first to admit that here. Kudos to the big brain of yours. Again, you come across as such a cool, calm customer. You seem like a very level headed and intelligent person. Just wanted to let you know that.
Posted by Carpe DM @ 08/29/2009 12:31 AM EST

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Anyone know where one might be able to DL the individual tracks (ie, guitar or bass or vocals or drums) from some of these tunes?
Posted by IS-JD @ 08/29/2009 06:29 PM EST

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Carpe DM, thanks for the compliments even if you were bull shitting.
SUICIDE AND REDEMPTION would of been a more fitting album title instead of Death Magnetic. It's the most important track on the album, in my opinion. Metallica wrote that one especially for the fans, guaranteed... the whole album was written with the fans in mind.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/29/2009 06:47 PM EST

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Is writing an album for the fans really all that bad? I mean, it's a great album and it's what I wanted to hear so I'm happy this is an album made for the fans.
Posted by BoNeZ @ 08/30/2009 05:00 PM EST

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Metallica finally wrote a metal album again that is loved by them and millions of fans around the world and there is not a damn thing wrong with that... Death Magnetic is enjoyable music and is better than anything else out there in my mind.
Posted by Acillatem @ 08/30/2009 11:06 PM EST

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Manguy, did you grow a pair yet? Please tell me you did. Remember my theory and how you thought it was complete rubbish and full of holes. Well anyhow, I'm still waiting for a mature response from you. So feel free to point them holes out anytime now, while we're still young preferably... it's the least you could do.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/01/2009 10:39 PM EST

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Manguy, did you grow a pair yet? Please tell me you did. Remember my theory and how you thought it was complete rubbish and full of holes. Well anyhow, I'm still waiting for a mature response from you. So feel free to point them holes out anytime now, while we're still young, preferably... it's the least you could do.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/01/2009 10:41 PM EST

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Am I the only one seeing double??... I guess I'll cool it on the refreshments... shit happens.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/01/2009 10:43 PM EST

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Acillatem (whatever that means), Do you have a life?!
I do. I have a full time government job with a ton of responsibilities. I am married, my wife is pregnant. I have a new home and renovations underway. I am active volunteering, tons of hobbies, friends etc..
Meanwhile, you are siting at yur computer all day hitting the refresh button to see if I have responded to you yet?! You need to let this go. I stated by opinion, I don't need to substantiate it, defend it or argue with you any further. We can disagree, its not the end of the world!
Posted by manguy @ 09/02/2009 08:56 AM EST

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Hey manguy, long time no chat. If you want to take the easy way out of this topic... it's all cool with me... we can agree to disagree and I'll move on with my life. All apologies if I weirded you out in any way, shape or form, it wasn't my intention. Normally my life is quite eventful and chaotic, just enjoying some downtime at the moment(for the past couple of weeks). I'll let this go, you're a busy guy and I understand and respect that, but there's no need to get all pissy. Who's arguing? I thought we could have a calm, civil and intelligent discussion. I guess I was wrong. I was just trying to have a little Metallishop talk here and bust your balls a bit... I surely didn't mean to go and get myself added onto your shit list.
p.s/ In regards to what Acillatem simply means:
With Metallica back to using the old school logo on the new album and Death Magnetic's similar sound and track structure to the RTL, MOP and AJFA albums, I think Metallica might be trying to relive their past... call me ignorant or whatever you want, but that's what I think. Metallica spelled backwards equals Acillatem.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/02/2009 11:18 PM EST

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Wow, I didn't notice that was tallica backwards.
Anyways, little blurb over on blabbermouth with Kerry King talking about hearing whispers that Lars is trying to work out a tour(or a gig maybe) with the big 4(met, mega, slayer and anthrax).
I would definitely be all over that show. Kerry's only comment to the negative(of course he had to have one) was that he would prefer machine head to anthrax since anthrax is a mess right now.
Posted by kurt @ 09/03/2009 01:26 PM EST

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Kerry's right about anthrax being a mess, but it's still a silly comment by him, because:
a) Machine head suck donkey penis b) having them instead of Anthrax would completely destroy the symbology of having the big 4 all together on one tour c) machine head suck donkey penis
Posted by caspian @ 09/04/2009 05:56 AM EST

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Firs off, I know Y'all missed me, secondly... Caspian... you used to be beautiful, but your penis obsession is freakin' me out son! They should put that tour together
Posted by GREENHELL97 @ 09/05/2009 09:22 PM EST

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damn, has anyone heard the sonisphere stuff? james sounds incredible and all round teh bands really tight.. May have to buy this one. Vocally it's the best I've heard frpm James for an extremely long time.
Posted by caspian @ 09/06/2009 04:57 AM EST

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Id have to agree caspian...maybe since it was the last concert of the tour he could go nuts and not worry about losing his voice
Posted by Mark @ 09/06/2009 05:19 PM EST

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First Metallica releases their midlife crisis album otherwise known as Death Magnetic, now we might get "the big 4" midlife crisis tour/gig... more like the big 40+ bunch of old, over the hill has beens.
Wow, once in his lifetime, Kerry King is actually right about something. Finally, I agree with the guy. Machine Head needs to be on this tour and use their youth and energy to help inspire and keep all these old geezers motivated... hope the "the big 4" don't all have a big cardiac arrest on stage.
Machine Head will own them all... do circles around these old men... how many hearing aids does James use... one ear or both ears now?
Awesome idea Lars... really, I can't wait.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/07/2009 11:26 PM EST

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You sir..are an idiot...
Posted by Mark @ 09/08/2009 12:52 AM EST

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I kind of like acillatem, until he started praising Machine Head. Dude is definitely a troll, or at the very least someone who's opinion we can just dismiss out of hand.
Posted by caspian @ 09/08/2009 05:42 AM EST

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I am pretty sure he is bipolar or something to that effect. If that is the case, we must show compassion. Otherwise, feel free to lay down the hammer.
Posted by manguy @ 09/08/2009 08:19 AM EST

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As I said after his first post, troll.
I think the Big 4 tour may be the worst thing to ever happen to me, because if it's a full tour, like a whole summer, I'm going to be spending a lot of time driving from show to show. I think I can work from the hotels at each city, but I'll probably go deaf and not be able to hear any conference calls. I'll probably get fired. Totally worth it.
Of course, the chances of that many egos getting in the same arena at the same time will be slim, so my job is probably safe.
Posted by Azrael @ 09/08/2009 12:05 PM EST

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Acillatem, I thought you were carrying the thing with manguy a little too far, but now you are just being foolish.
Yes, it is a good idea. Met can still bring it. Slayer and Megadave can still bring it live too. Anthrax can, provided they have a vocalist. This would be a great event.
If you haven't noticed, metallica have done Machine Head the favor of bringing them all over the world recently and introducing them to a larger audience than they already had. Besides, MH isn't even part of this equation. It's about the big four, and let me tell you, a LOT of people will go if this thing is pulled off.
And this certainly isn't to fill Lars' pockets, cause he can do that with any opening act, and they will have to pay at least Megadave and slayer much more than the typical opening act.
You are starting to strike me as someone who wants to talk shit just to stir the pot.
Posted by kurt @ 09/08/2009 02:03 PM EST

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Hey kurt, I think you are like the only other level headed guy besides myself who knows how to reciprocate in a discussion without resorting to name calling when another dude's opinion is different from your own.
If Kerry King hadn't mentioned Machine Head, none of us would of included them in this topic of discussion.
Guess I'm not making too may friends here. Some of you guys need to calm down and lighten up a bit. Why so serious? Life's too short to be so serious. After all, we're all Metallica fans here and not enemies, am I right?
I love Metallica first and foremost out every other band on the planet and this includes every genre of music (I've heard them all in case you're wondering). Machine Head is my 2nd favorite metal band... to each their own, whatever happened to that?
I've said it before and I'll say it again (in case it slipped your mind, please don't forget it again), I'm not a troll and I'm not a Metallica basher. Call me what you want, if it makes you feel better inside... I have nothing but love and respect for Metallica (I know, I have a funny way of showing it)... that does not mean they are above criticism or above a bit of ball breakin' from a friendly fan.
May the hand of god strike me down if I'm bullshitting you guys.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/09/2009 12:13 AM EST

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nothign wrong with criticism, a lot wrong with talking up rob flynn
Posted by caspian @ 09/09/2009 03:12 AM EST

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This is the part where Acillatem gives us his sob story, pretends he's not that bad so he won't be kicked off the site, then goes back to bizarrio world style posts.
Its a cycle, we have seen it before.
But, if I am wrong....fill in the blank
Posted by manguy @ 09/09/2009 08:32 AM EST

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what's the bet he's that One Minute Closer to Death guy.
Posted by caspian @ 09/09/2009 08:40 AM EST

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I do think he reminds of someone who posted here before, I just can't place it.
Look, I like MH too. I think they are a second teir band, but there are a lot of those that I like. And true, Kerry King did bring that up. But Kerry King is also a little bit all over the map. He has publicly slammed MH several times, now he is backing them as a replacement for one of the big 4?
I repspect that Kerry will speak his mind. I don't respect that he seems to feel if someone does something contrary to what he does(i.e. change in musical style), that they are wrong.
Anyways, I would love to see this tour. I've only seen metallica and slayer live so far.
As far as anthrax goes, I think the Belladona music was more in the classic big 4 vein, but I like more of the music with Bush, especially Sound of White Noise.
Posted by kurt @ 09/09/2009 09:47 AM EST

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Good call Caspian.
He probably found a new IP address as well.
Kurt, its funny you say that about Anthrax, I saw them live a few years ago with Belladona (opening for Priest - I caught Benante's drum stick, woohoo) and thought they were great live. However, for some reason when I want to listen to them on record, I reach for the Bush era stuff more. The threat is real is one of my favs, don't ask me why!
Posted by manguy @ 09/09/2009 12:08 PM EST

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If there was a big 4 tour that would be insane. I live in Ny, but I would make sure that I seen them in NY, NJ, PA & Michigan. I'm sure that Anthrax would be part of it in one way or another. Whether Bush sings or they get Belladona back temporarily for the tour, I'm sure they won't let an opportunity like this pass them by. Kerry King is the only one from Slayer that has a problem with 'tallica. I'm thinking if it happens, that Dave will wind up on stage at least once during that tour...probably playing on horsemen or hit the lights...that would be cool. I don't like Dave's bitching and moaning, but I do like Megadeth. I think he stinks at singing but is awesome on guitar and writing. Just a side note, if Anthrax were not able to play, who do you think should take their place? Maybe I'm crazy but why not Judas Priest? I think Maiden is out of teh question due to some of their egos. Any ideas of who else that deserves to be on the bill....Pantera would have been cool but cannot due to obvious reasons.
Posted by MONSTER @ 09/09/2009 01:08 PM EST

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Manguy, I love SOWN and The Threat is Real. There's a couple of good songs on Stomp(In a zone, Random Acts and Tester in my book), but otherwise it's not as good. The threat is real had some good songs too. I just wish they would settle on a course and get on with it, for better or worse. Quit being indecisive. If Bush is nice enough to come back, ride it out for the rest of your career.
Priest I don't see fitting on that bill. Some people call it the big 5 and include exodus, but I don't see it. They are also second rate in my opinion. I think Testament would be the one to most fit the profile musically, but they also don't have the cache of the big four.
Posted by kurt @ 09/09/2009 01:31 PM EST

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motorhead? heaven&hell? guns&dildoes? faith no more? tesla(just kidin, funny huh)?
Posted by curtis moon @ 09/09/2009 03:49 PM EST

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I'm with Caspian on the One Minute guy. All of the big 4 basically created their own "school" of metal, and Anthrax probably had the least long-term successful offshoots. So if I were looking for a good 80's era metal band, I'd say Testament, but they were more from Metallica's school. Suicidal would be great, but that's a long night for Rob. If Anthrax can't work it out, maybe they could dig up Billy and go out as SOD. But really, anything other than Anthrax will reduce the meaning of such a show.
Posted by Azrael @ 09/09/2009 04:37 PM EST

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Oh yeah, the cat's really outta the bag now, isn't it? It's been awhile, I missed coming here and it feels real good to be back... seriously though, all kidding aside, calling me this One Minute Closer To Death guy is like saying manguy is IS-JD. It's ludicrous! Where do you guys come up with stuff? Funny stuff, indeed... that's right, I'm this OMCTD guy and manguy is IS-JD, where do I place my bet? Sorry to let you guys down, but all bets are off.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/09/2009 11:17 PM EST

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Caspian, what's your beef with Rob Flynn and his band Machine Head? Granted, he's no James(no one will ever fill those boots) and they're no Metallica (never will be anything close to that)... but they're the next best thing, in my opinion.
Metallica is the only band that matters in the first tier metal band category and Machine Head is the only band that matters in the second tier metal band category, in my opinion... hence, next best thing to Metallica, which garners some praise, well at least from my point of view.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/09/2009 11:34 PM EST

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"Metallica is the only band that matters in the first tier metal band category"
Well, now we really know you have terrible taste in music. Metallica are my fave metal band too, but making a comment like that is just flat out embarrasing, to say nothing of what your next comment was.
And guys, it has to be Anthrax. Without them, the symbology of the big 4 is lost. If this tour is going to go ahead as "the biggest metal tour evver" (and if it does, it will be) then anthrax are requierd.
Posted by caspian @ 09/10/2009 02:12 AM EST

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My opinion is if Anthrax doesn't do it, then it's a total bust, because I can't see Dave sharing the stage with metallica unless it was a major thing like the Big 4.
For that matter, I don't know if Kerry would either, since he seemed to have such a hair across his ass that Rick Rubin and team decided to produce death magnetic.
If they did pull it off, imagine the drama.
Each band has a shit talker:
Lars Dave Kerry Scott(although it's more ass kissing than anything else).
Dave and Scott recently had their little public disagreement over the whole "firing lars" business.
Kerry has slammed all three bands.
We all know what Dave has said about everyone.
Either everyone would kiss and make up, or they would have to stay as far apart from each other as possible.
I would guess Anthrax on first and obviously metallica last. But 2nd and 3rd, who knows.
Posted by kurt @ 09/10/2009 03:54 PM EST

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Yeah I think that all the bands would have to be far apart from eachover. However, I don't think any of the guys in Metallica would start or want to start any shit with the others...they'd probably juts be real happy to pull it off and make the best of it. As far as the order in which to play, I'd say Anthrax first, Slayer second, Megadeth third and Metallica last. I don't see why Slayer would have a problem, when I saw Tattoo the Earth back in '99 or 2000 (can't remember), they played before Slipknot and then Metallica played last. Still, this is all speculation but the idea of the big 4 gets me pumped up.
Posted by MONSTER @ 09/10/2009 04:38 PM EST

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Oh, and that same concert, Tom Araya gave major props to Metallica and said that he was happy to play on the same venue again. I guess KK is the only asshole in that band.
Posted by MONSTER @ 09/10/2009 04:40 PM EST

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MONSTER, that was July 2000, and was a great show at Giants Stadium. Yeah I don't see Slayer having a problem going on second, and this would be a tour I'd definitely have to hit more than one stop on. But I dunno, I'm not holding my breath. Seems like a longshot to me...
Posted by BoNeZ @ 09/10/2009 07:02 PM EST

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I read KK's comments, and it looked like he was seizing on the barest of threads of rumor as an opportunity to bash Anthrax, but more importantly to question Lars' taste in wanting Anthrax over Machine Head. It doesn't sound like a real thing, and given all of the history between the Big 4, I can't see it happening, period.
Posted by Azrael @ 09/10/2009 10:32 PM EST

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Happy 1 Year Anniversary For Metallica's REDEMPTION ALBUM!!!
Hell Yeah For The Great DEATH MAGNETIC!!!
Already, a whole year later, time flys by... doesn't it?
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/12/2009 02:34 PM EST

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Right On Acillatem!! Damn, can't believe it's been a year already. That CD has not left my car this whole time! Hopefully we don't have that long of wait for the next album to come out.
Posted by MONSTER @ 09/12/2009 04:41 PM EST

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I hope so too for your sake, you may have to listen to a different album if the wait becomes more than a couple of years. Then you would look foolish.
Posted by SRW @ 09/13/2009 05:39 AM EST

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I assure you that I've been waaaaay too busy to be anyone but myself.
Yup, it's been a year. I've learned that I have to take some breaks from DM to appreciate it (and I still think End of the Line isn't that great - TWJYL has grown on me). Will we get UN3 live soon?
Posted by IS-JD @ 09/14/2009 12:09 AM EST

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It'd probably rob the live set of all of it's momentum if it was played. But I guess S&R would probably do that, too. I suppose we'll see it soon-ish.
Is it too early to start a "next metallica album" sweepstake of some sort? I'm going to be a pessimistic bitch and say March 2013.
Posted by caspian @ 09/14/2009 08:04 AM EST

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UN3 is the only song of DM not played live. I can perhaps see it being done in a unique circumstance (UN2 was played once live on an award show) didn't go off very well, so they havn't played it since.
Posted by mngy @ 09/14/2009 08:34 AM EST

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I think they are waiting to release it as a single to play it live.
I don't think it would kill the momentum of a show, because they have still typically played one or two more "hard rock" than "metal" tunes each night.
I certainly don't expect a new disc anytime soon. But I would expect them so relese Shine at some point, probably as an itunes single of something. Rarely have they done that, but James specifically said that song would be released.
If it's another 5 years between albums, then they better release a dvd or something. I still vote for a rarities/b-sides. You could have Shine, maybe another DM song that didn't make it, Presidio stuff, etc.
Posted by kurt @ 09/14/2009 09:07 AM EST

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I was going to buy the new Megadave when it's released tomorrow. But, I'm listening to the new single/vid Headcrusher right now. It's frakking terrible... it's hilarious it's so bad.
Posted by IS-JD @ 09/14/2009 11:32 AM EST

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I'm pretty sure I read a review that said headcrusher was the worst song on the record.
Posted by kurt @ 09/14/2009 12:17 PM EST

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JD, I downloaded a leaked copy of Endgame yesterday....save your money, the rest of the album is more of the same. There are some cool guitar solos, and a couple of cool riffs, but that's it. The songwriting is terrible. Dave's vocals for the most part suck.
Posted by EET FUK @ 09/14/2009 09:08 PM EST

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Nashville is getting a cool surprise tonight according to metontour, so maybe they will get U3 tonight, or somthing cool like frayed ends. Well, we will find out in a couple hours.
Posted by Robert @ 09/14/2009 10:07 PM EST

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What'd you expect? It's Dave Mustaine... his vocals always suck for the most part. He never could sing or write an album that was anything more than mediocre at best, in my opinion.
Nashville's surprise tonight will be interesting...
As lazy as I am, I was wondering if somebody could do me a solid and provide information on Death Magnetic's total amount of albums sold in it's first year, North America and worldwide...just curious is all. Please and thanks.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/14/2009 10:28 PM EST

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Only place i usually see sales is wiki, might be a little out of date and it only shows approximate amounts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Magnetic. As far as Dave goes, he has written some really really solid stuff..but every effort since Risk has been terrible with a few exceptions. Hoping to get U3 tonight. that would be sweet.
Posted by Mark @ 09/14/2009 10:57 PM EST

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Lemmy joined the boys in Nashville for Damage Case and Too Late Too Late.
Oh and in news I find completely fascinating in an odd way, Wyonna Judd actually walked the band to the stage.
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Well, Lemmy is a pretty damn good surprise... definetly going to download this show from livemetallica.
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Its sad that Dave Mustaine has already taken his usual insecure stance about his material.
He sais recently, something like: "You would have to be a complete cotton headed brain donor to think that it sucks"
Posted by manguy @ 09/15/2009 08:19 AM EST

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Speaking of Lemmy...im goin to see Motorhead on Sept 27th here in Calgary!! fuck yeah!!
Posted by Mark @ 09/15/2009 09:51 AM EST

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Hmmm... why would Metallica touring with Megadeth, Slayer, and Anthrax be bad? That would be great. I'm not hard on those guys anymore... They're closer to the end than beginning, and if you don't like'em, fine. I love Machine Head myself, but someone said they'd eat them all alive. Dude, they're great, but unless they play an all Metallica cover set list, ain't no one ownin' Metallica son. I happen to love the new Megadeth (Mustainadeth...whatever). Yes he's so full of bullshit, as is Dairy Queen (kerry king), but fuck... they're still around, and they ain't as bad as that bitch ass Kanye interupting an 18 year old girl. What pus filled anal blister that punk bitch is! Anyhow, that's my 2 cents!
Posted by GREENHELL97 @ 09/15/2009 09:58 PM EST

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Thanks Mark... looks like DM's got a long way to go before it surpasses TBA, if ever.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/15/2009 11:49 PM EST

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As if I didn't already know Metallica are and always will be the KINGS OF METAL... in regards to my Machine Head owning Metallica remarks above, somebody please inform GREENHELL97... thems were jokes... son.
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Curtis, what was that all about?
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New Megadeth vid. They're going in a new direction.
Posted by Azrael @ 09/16/2009 05:33 PM EST

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i saw it recently on web soup or some clip show. yeah it is totally hilarious but there is some cool bass and keyboards in spots. at first i thought it was cheesy but cool, i assumed this chris dane owens was european or scandinavian (like me) and he didn't know what he was singing cause it got translated and changed to rhyme. turns out he's a native from l.a. and now i'm not so sure
Posted by curtis moon @ 09/16/2009 07:47 PM EST

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Shine on Me is really old but completely hilarious/awesome.
Posted by caspian @ 09/17/2009 03:12 AM EST

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Alrighty, just gave Endgame a full spine. Lots of excellent playing throughout. However, that's almost all it is. The songs seem structured purely as vehicles for solos. There were only a couple of songs that may be memorable songs. Contrary to a lot of the reviews I have read, I think United Abominations was MUCH better. There are 5 or so songs on that the I really liked, and a couple of clunkers. This one had much more intricate playing, but not much stood out to me.
Hell, there are lots of bands out there with a lot of really fast and intricate playing, but no songs for you to remember. My high hopes for this one were not met. 4/10 rating from me.
Posted by kurt @ 09/17/2009 03:28 PM EST

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I picked up Endgame. I got past the first "song" - the instrumental bit that went on a lil too long. At first I thought it was kinda cool, harkening back to the old days (ala Set the World Afire), but it just kept going and going and became masturbatory.
I kept listening and at first was impressed. But, it seemed to peak at 44 Minutes... well, I can't say peaked as it was right about then that I started wondering WTF happened to Mustaine. It's like all the peices of a puzzle fell into place: the dude's a paranoid conspiracy theorist. Catching bits and pieces of FEMA this and President that (the bits on the economy... sheesh)... it became silly. This wasn't angry Dave preaching to the choir, this was paranoid Dave that belongs on late night talk radio.
There are moments on Endgame that could've amounted to something. For the most part, the album sounds great (Mustaine's vocals still mixed a bit too high). Still, the band doesn't feel like a band... just the hired hands that they seem to be. The Hardest Part of Letting Go, wow... if there's a reason to not let Megadave on the "Big 4" tour, this is it. Horrid.
Posted by IS-JD @ 09/18/2009 08:35 AM EST

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Great musician, lousy songwriter equals Dave's MegaCRAP... it's as simple as that.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/18/2009 10:26 PM EST

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Not to mention... Dave's terrible nasal vocals on very hard on the ears.
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/19/2009 12:08 AM EST

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... IS very hard on the ears.
fckn typos
Posted by Acillatem @ 09/19/2009 12:11 AM EST

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Hmmm. It seems Judas got lost somewhere between Europe and North America. Really hoping this makes it back onto the setlist before Dallas, but not holding my breath.
Posted by Azrael @ 09/20/2009 02:11 PM EST

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Wow. Shortest Straw... sounded good, too.
Posted by IS-JD @ 09/20/2009 04:15 PM EST

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Just saw the vid on Metontour JD, I totally agree.
Posted by Mark @ 09/20/2009 09:30 PM EST

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Azrael, they just played Judas last night at the second show in Montreal.
Not to mention Blitz and Trapped in the encore!
Posted by manguy @ 09/21/2009 08:15 AM EST

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Nice to see Shortest Straw. Lars recently said it hasn't been played cause James doesn't like to sing it. Well, someone(rob) must have convinced him.
A couple more listens to endgame and I'm still left with good playing/not so good songs. I haven't heard one song on it that would replace any DM songs, that's for sure.
Posted by kurt @ 09/21/2009 09:30 AM EST

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whoa, whoa, I know we arent supposed to like Dave here but Rust in Peace..... mediocre..... seriously guys...
Posted by Marcus @ 09/22/2009 04:49 PM EST

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Well, I think Holy Wars is right up there as one of the best songs written by any of the Big 4. Hangar 18 is really good too. Other than that, like a lot of Dave's stuff to me, phenomenal playing, kind of forgettable songs.
In general, I think he had 1-3 great songs on every record other than Risk. Peace Sells was always my favorite from him. So far I think Endgame is the best one on this record.
Posted by kurt @ 09/23/2009 10:24 AM EST

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I'm in the minority that doesn't care for Rust In Peace. I think So Far, So Good, So What? is Megadeth's best. Megadeth to me meant dirty and snotty with attitude. Rust was just too clean and sterile... Marty Friedman may be a great guitar player, just never thought him or his style fit this band.
There's decent stuff on and after Rust. But, there really isn't a full album that made me go wow since "So Far..." - some great songs (A Secret Place, Almost Honest, etc), and some silly ones (Victory, Psychotron, etc.). I'll take Youthanasia and Countdown over Rust any day.
Endgame? Not so much.
Posted by IS-JD @ 09/24/2009 09:08 AM EST

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I have to say that 1320 and headcrusher are growing on me. So I've got four good songs on there, unless more grow on me.
You know JD, I never really paid much attention to "so far". When it first came out I just remember not digging the cover song and the instrumentals not catching me. Over time though, I've gotten to really like set the world afire and abolutely love Hook in Mouth.
In between giving Endgame a fair amount of spine, I put DM, MOP, AJFA and RTL back in and I guess it's just a preference thing. To me all of metallica's stuff is better for the most part.
I am really anticipating the new AIC disc. I really like the two songs I've heard so far.
Posted by kurt @ 09/24/2009 11:17 AM EST

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I'm eager to get a new Anthrax CD with John Bush. Overall, Anthrax has a better average for me than Megadave... while Dave & Co. might have a better song here or there he also has the absolutely terrible tunes; Anthrax is much more consistent while they don't peak and/or valley nearly as much. (And Scott's a better rhythm guitar player than Dave).
Posted by IS-JD @ 09/24/2009 10:57 PM EST

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It's always interesting to me which albums people say are the best from different bands. I have a theory that says that the best "definitive" album for each individual is the one that they heard first from that band, which is why I think there are so many people who prefer Justice or Ride over Master. To me, the Big 4 all released their best albums in 86/87 timeframe. Reign and Master are each absolute perfection, with no weak songs on them. Among the Living loses a bit of steam for the last two songs, but is still solid start to finish, and Peace Sells would be perfect if they had left off the cover song. My Last Words may be the only song that can make me lose control of the accelerator pedal more completely than "Helpless." "A click comes from the hammer, that couldn't drive a nail"... that's good stuff. "So far" has Darkest Hour, which may be the best song Dave's ever written, but Peace Sells is the most consistent album to me. Like I said, it probably has more to do with when I was introduced to the band than which one is really the best.
Posted by Azrael @ 09/25/2009 01:18 AM EST

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Well, I have to agree with JD again(I swear I'm not kissing your ass). I like many more Anthrax tunes than Megadeth tunes. However, the Megadeth tunes I like, I probably like better than most of Anthrax's tunes(if that makes any sense).
I also, for the most part, prefer Bush-thrax to Belladona-thrax. More thrashy with belladona, but I prefer Bush's vocals.
Since we're kind of on a Big 4 favorites topic, here's mine:
Metallica: MOP. Agreeing with Azrael's theory, I got hooked on metallica listening to Disposeable Heroes on the way to high school back in 86/87. Justice probably comes in at #2, even though it wasn't when it came out(it has progressively grown on me over the years.
Megadeth: Peace Sells. Again, this is where I started with megadeth, and start to finish I hit skip with this less than any other megadisc.
Slayer: This is tough for me, because I find I really love about two songs on each of their records, and can't be bothered by the rest of the disc. So I'll just say that Raining Blood and Seasons in the Abyss are my two favorite slayer songs.
Anthrax: I have to divide in two. Belladona= Among the Living. Bush= Sound of White Noise. This one came out while I was at chiropractic college and I used to listen to it beginning to end while jogging. For my money the most consistent thrax record.
Posted by kurt @ 09/25/2009 09:34 AM EST

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That's kinda what I was trying to say as well, kurt. Anthrax is more consistent, but when Megadeth has a good song it's usually head and shoulder's above an Anthrax tune. There are a few 'Trax tunes that come close (Sound of White Noise has some tasty cuts -- but if Bush would've done In My World originally, it might've been godly). I appreciate them pre-Bush, but Sound of White Noise has always been the standard for me. I never cared much for Belladonna, but I've been relistening to some of that stuff lately - Euphoria and Persistence era (I never had a copy of Among the Living).
Megadeth - I've already laid my claim. So Far.. just reeks of attitude and wins. Can't discount Peace Sells though - Wake Up Dead is prolly my favorite song from them overall... but I have to give props to Hook In Mouth, Darkest Hour and Good Mourning. Hard to believe it's the same band that gave us Moto Psycho
Posted by IS-JD @ 09/25/2009 03:15 PM EST

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...Slayer. Albumwise, it's all about Seasons in the Abyss. But gotta credit South of Heaven (the song) and Raining Blood.
Posted by IS-JD @ 09/25/2009 03:18 PM EST

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Well, I hope Anthrax figures their shit out and Bush opts to return to the group for good. You simply can't change vocalists that much. Van Halen found that out with Gary Cherone. I've seen them with Dave and Sammy(x2) and the arena was filled up. With Cherone, 1/2 filled. Regardless how good the music is, fans do identify with the vocal style.
Come to think of it, I think Maiden also discovered that with Blaze Bayley. They were all but dead with him, bring back Bruce(dickhead) and they are an international force again.
Posted by kurt @ 09/25/2009 05:13 PM EST

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Just went to a pre screening of zombieland last night. For whom the bell tolls was the opening credits music. Thought that was cool
Posted by Mark @ 09/25/2009 09:22 PM EST

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I disagree on the Friedman comments JD, he's just a perfect fit to the band...what makes Rust in peace memorable to me is his amazing solos...I've been hooked on this album for the past month and all i can say is that tornado of souls is probably one of the greatest solos in a metal song ever...it's just my opinion though
Posted by xino @ 09/26/2009 03:53 PM EST

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I agree xino. He was amazing in RIP. Tornado of Souls aside, there's fantastic solos in Holy Wars, Poison was the Cure and the title track.
Posted by caspian @ 09/27/2009 10:58 AM EST

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Again, to me Marty's fit in the band is a lot about attitude, fit and feel. As someone who loved Megadeth pre-RIP and the attitude and dirtiness they had, Marty - especially in RIP just came off as too clean, too happy and not a good fit at all. He stuck out like a sore thumb. But, a lot of that fee - to me, at least - is about that time period and the segue from SFSGSW to RIP.
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haha, the riffs on RIP are so rediculous thats its rediculous that I am even having this conversation right now. I understand its produced well and polished but on guitar RIP is unreal. I know Mustaine's voice is buttcheeks but that album is sick.
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