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07/23/2008 Entry: "DEATH MAGNETIC: TRACKLIST"
 After a fan discovered the tracklisting for Death Magnetic on a music publishing website, Metallica has released the tracklisting for their 9th studio album, due in September. 1. That Was Just Your Life
2. The End Of The Line
3. Broken, Beat & Scarred
4. The Day That Never Comes
5. All Nightmare Long
6. Cyanide
7. The Unforgiven III
8. The Judas Kiss
9. Suicide & Redemption
10. My Apocalypse
Replies: 321 comments
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Posted by JOHN @ 07/23/2008 03:59 PM EST
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I was hoping Holy Revolver would be one of the titles. Not a fan of long song titles, but there are no riffs/music in the tracklisting, so who cares, lol.
Posted by The General @ 07/23/2008 04:02 PM EST
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Remember, they recorded 11 songs, but only 10 are showing up on the album. There hasn't been any talk from anyone about how/when we will get to hear that 11th song. That could very well be Holy Revolver, assuming Holy Revolver isn't really one of the songs on the album, just with a different name. Although, I must admit, Holy Revolver reminds me of something from St. Anger, totally. I am not saying thats good or bad, I am just saying the riff, James singing, and the title Holy Revolver, sound St. Angerish to me. The name reminds me of Dirty Window (which, I love that song). Yet none of the other Death Magnetic clips I've heard remind me of St. Anger at all. The song may not gel with the rest of the album if it really is St. Angerish while the rest of the material is all of a different kind of vibe.
Posted by D-J @ 07/23/2008 04:19 PM EST
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I can't believe how much I like all the song titles. In fact, its funny how, for the first time, I am not hearing a bunch of people whining. I hear some whining about one song title, The Unforgiven III, and thats it. I can't decide which song title I like the most. What do you all think? My favorites (from most to least) would be:
1. All Nightmare Long (FINALLY we have the word Nightmare in a Metallica song! woohoo!)
2. My Apocalypse
3. The Day That Never Comes
4. The Judas Kiss
5. That Was Just Your Life
6. Suicide & Redemption
7. Broken, Beat & Scarred
8. The End Of The Line
9. The Unforgiven III
10. Cyanide
Posted by D-J @ 07/23/2008 04:28 PM EST
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While all these titles kick ass...the one that grbs my attention the most is The Judas Kiss. Sounds like it will be interesting. All nightmare long sounds cool as fuck too.
Posted by MONSTER @ 07/23/2008 04:29 PM EST
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from metallica.com.....Track Listing Boys and Girls (Leak Central #27)....................Leak central #27??? WTF....sounds kinda fishy.....any chance this could be a faux setlist?
Posted by The General @ 07/23/2008 04:40 PM EST
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Ok, heres my ranking:
1. The Judas Kiss
2. The Day That Never Comes
3. My Apocalypse
4. All Nightmare Long
5. Suicide & Redemption
6. That Was Just Your Life
7. Broken, Beat & Scarred
8. The End Of The Line
9. Cyanide
10. The Unforgiven III
Posted by EPDA @ 07/23/2008 04:42 PM EST
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Leak central because this tracklisting came out last night on the message boards... just like the Guitar Hero thingy leaked out previously.
(I've updated the story to reflect that).
Posted by IS-JD @ 07/23/2008 04:42 PM EST
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Kinda surprised there isn't a title track... or is that the 11th song they haven't revealed?
On that leaked tracklist in the last comments section it listed "Death Magnetic" as track 1.
Who knows, I just hope Unforgiven III isn't as "cheesy" as II. Am I unforgiven thrice? hmmm.....
Posted by DuManchu @ 07/23/2008 04:59 PM EST
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how does this tracklist look in reverse, with Unforgiven III as track 4 and My Apocalypse as track 1? could be.
Posted by The General @ 07/23/2008 05:29 PM EST
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i think you're right the general. in fact the album could be designed in reverse. say like the movie memento.
Posted by fingerprint @ 07/23/2008 05:44 PM EST
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Hope Unforgiven III is a step in a new direction, like Unforgiven 2 was just a different twist on the same riff as the first. I hope this one is completely different..like maybe an instrumental??? just hopefully not a new spin on the same riff. All the song titles are great though..i might not like All Nightmare Long as much as others.
The Judas Kiss, Suicide & Redemption and My Apocalypse are probably the best titles. Anyways..cant judge an album on the titles so i cant wait to get my hands on this.
Posted by Mark @ 07/23/2008 05:49 PM EST
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Lars said that they wanted to put 11 songs on the album but they couldn't fit it all on due to modern cd formats or something like that. I'm guessing that if you buy the boxset and get that memory stick, you can download the 11th song or something...
Posted by NoCreativeNameGuy @ 07/23/2008 06:08 PM EST
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I don't believe it the track list. The unforgiven III? I doubt they would do that but who knows.
Posted by Metal in AR @ 07/23/2008 06:51 PM EST
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Ever heard the saying "Flogging a Dead Horse"? They should never have done Unforgiven II, let alone go back to try and fuck it up another time. Unforgiven is a brilliant song. They should have just left it the fuck alone.
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 07/23/2008 08:15 PM EST
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You really think Rubin would let them put a shitty song on this album?
Posted by Jim @ 07/23/2008 08:16 PM EST
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I REALLY hope that Unforgiven III thing isn't going happen. The 2nd really didn't work, it's horribly cheesy.. come on, Metallica! Otherwise, it's not so bad; never a good idea really to infer stuff from song titles, anyway.
Posted by caspian @ 07/23/2008 08:46 PM EST
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How can some of you dip shits continue and question the validity of the track listing when it's on two of Metallica's official websites? I'm willing to bet JD's left nut, and all my ball hair that Unforgiven III is a ton better than II. I'm psyched about this album. I'm anticipating this more than St. Anger. Here's hoping a fall tour with Machine Head is up on the agenda. Caspian, I know you hate every band out there that has sold more than four copies of a record, but they killed it at the mayhem tour. I couldn't believe the movie critics. "Shave 14 minutes off of The Dark Knight"... blah blah blah blah. That movie was perfect. Just the way it is.
Posted by MOTORBREATH666 @ 07/23/2008 09:05 PM EST
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Unforgiven 3??? Wow. Why stop there. Why not call King Nothing=> Enter Sandman II? Or Fixxxer=> Outlaw Torn II? They are practically the same riff.
I want to hear Blackened II or Fade Back in Black? hahaha
i'm bored. i need a single
Posted by Die On Your Feet @ 07/23/2008 09:08 PM EST
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I find the concept of there being an Unforgiven III to be funny as hell.
Posted by Trace @ 07/23/2008 09:35 PM EST
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You know, just because Unforgiven II sucked doesn't mean that Unforgiven III will. Reload was a completely different style than what they are going for on this album. In fact, one none of the early album reviews do they say "well, another shitty version of unforgiven on this album." And also, composers have, for generations, used and updated previous themes for new material. The last movement of Beethoven's 9th Symphony (widely considered as the greatest symphonic work of all time) is basically a cobbled together collection of other stuff he had written previously.
And btw, I totally agree with Caspian- you can't infer anything from song titles. The cool thing about music is that words, for the most part, do little to influence a song. Take blackened for example. We all know the words and what they are about, but lots of random listeners have no freaking clue, and don't really care for that matter. All they hear are blazing riffs and some tight metal crunch. Based on what I've heard from these FOTW clips, coupled with the sound from Remember tomorrow, I'm willing to bet that this album is completely ridiculous. They could call the songs "big pile of shit" and i'm pretty sure they would still rape and pillage.
Posted by Sven @ 07/23/2008 10:05 PM EST
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Maybe they are trying to make amends for the travesty that was Unforgiven II. But where does it end...? Stand by for Metallica's 9th Unforgiven Symphony...
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 07/23/2008 10:10 PM EST
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I always thought Unforgiven II was excellent! Most of the song names are just fine.. I mean they're song names so long as they sounds great they could be called Songs 1-10. And the album name Death Magnetic is great compared to St. Anger... I was never a big fan of that album... but the thing I thought as the worst about it was the name St. Anger. I just never understood it I guess
Posted by Yukoner @ 07/23/2008 10:14 PM EST
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Trace, you got the idea!
Posted by Tony @ 07/23/2008 10:59 PM EST
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I like Unforgiven II, looking forward to Unforgiven III.
Posted by Tim @ 07/23/2008 11:04 PM EST
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Leave my balls out of this. ...and Dark Knight was good, far from perfect and could've lost 14 minutes and been better!
Posted by IS-JD @ 07/24/2008 12:09 AM EST
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We can get an Unforgiven 2 and 3, but we can't get a Master of Puppets 2? .....(crickets)....
Posted by Tipper @ 07/24/2008 12:31 AM EST
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I reiterate my earlier comment on Unforgiven... If a song is brilliant, why fuck with it? I'd rather hear new kick-arse songs than an attempt to hang off the coat-tails of success of a previous effort.
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 07/24/2008 01:02 AM EST
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okay.... my two cents. I loved Unforgiven. Unforgiven 2 was okay, but cheesy compared to the original. Unforgiven 3 is probably not a good idea... but I think since they're going ahead with it that they may have good plans for this song.
Flashback to 1997: "oh my god! Unforgiven 2?!? It's gotta rock!", then after hearing it "hmmmm, skip to track 5"
Also notice that Unforgiven and Unforgiven 2 were both track 4 on their respective albums, where Unforgiven 3 is track 7... this deviates from the title track 2, ballad track 4 formula of the classic albums.
Posted by Tipper @ 07/24/2008 01:09 AM EST
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And let's not forget the Instrumental as the second last track, followed by arse-rapingly fast final track formula that there was on Lightning, Puppetz and Justice. But they deviated from that formula with the Black album and (unfortunately) have not returned to it since.
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 07/24/2008 01:14 AM EST
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I see where they're going with this. Next it will be - Unforgiven IV: The Final Chapter, Unforgiven V: A New Beginning, Unforgiven VI: Unforgiven Lives, Unforgiven VII: A New Blood (Joins this Earth), Unforgiven VIII: Unforgiven Takes Manhattan, Unforgiven Goes To Hell: The Final Unforgiven, Unforgiven X, Unforgiven vs. Seasons in the Abyss, and so forth...
Posted by Seth @ 07/24/2008 03:03 AM EST
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During last years summer tour in Europe, James play an acoustic riff before starting Unforgiven. I bet it is the lick from Unforgiven III.... Five bucks...
Posted by F1XXX3R @ 07/24/2008 03:23 AM EST
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Well.. I think Unforgiven III is the instrumental everyone talked about?
Who knows...
Posted by ZeNosD3AD @ 07/24/2008 04:34 AM EST
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Glad to know someone else is as big a Voorhees fan as I am! :)
Posted by Seth @ 07/24/2008 08:08 AM EST
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Isn't the Unforgiven a story about the same dude?
In the first one he is a slave to people/society controlling him
The second one is him denying love and ends up alone.
The third one?? He's sick and tired of it, goes postal and annihilates some poor sap at the local mall. Arrested, charged, finally sentenced to Ride the Lightning. There is your six degrees of separation back to the classic albums!
Posted by manguy @ 07/24/2008 09:02 AM EST
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I agree totally with The General and fingerprint, I think this tracklisting is reversed. Didn't anyone find it odd that they say on their site that here's the tracklisting in running order ...??? And yet they don't number the songs? The titles definitely sound better if reversed, plus it adheres to Unforgiven III being the 4th track. I guess that would make The End Of The Line the instrumental (assuming you are going off MOP and AJFA and NOT RTL. Maybe That Was Just Your Life, as the album closer, is the shorter, 5 minute, fast song, much like we had with Damage Inc and Dyer's Eve. Remember, they are using their older logo and have said they are returning to their roots with this album, so why not use a tracklisting similiar to albums this album was supposedly inspired by?
Posted by D-J @ 07/24/2008 09:05 AM EST
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Guys, I think this over-analyzing of the tracklisting is getting out of hand. Each album is it's own separate entity. I seriously doubt that Metallica sits down and says things like "the title track has to be #2, the ballad has to be #4, the instrumental is next to last". Yes, there is a pattern, but it's more than likely entirely coincidental. They write the songs, then put them on the album according to how they think best serves the overall flow.
Posted by Your Friend of Misery @ 07/24/2008 09:33 AM EST
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Which honestly looks better? Vote for original or reverse.
1. That Was Just Your Life
2. The End Of The Line
3. Broken, Beat & Scarred
4. The Day That Never Comes
5. All Nightmare Long
6. Cyanide
7. The Unforgiven III
8. The Judas Kiss
9. Suicide & Redemption
10. My Apocalypse
OR
1. My Apocalypse
2. Suicide & Redemption
3. The Judas Kiss
4. The Unforgiven III
5. Cyanide
6. All Nightmare Long
7. The Day That Never Comes
8. Broken, Beat & Scarred
9. The End Of The Line
10. That Was Just Your Life
Posted by D-J @ 07/24/2008 09:36 AM EST
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I would vote for the second list. However, I wished they would have used Death Magnetic as a title song to the album (preferably as track#2). Judas Kiss kinda reminds me of Leper Messiah. The song title sound more solid than St. Anger. Dirty Window? Invisible Kid? etc. Really??? Anyways... What song do you think will make a good music video??? Will they use music video's, and when can we expect them to air?
Posted by Bond @ 07/24/2008 10:08 AM EST
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Horrible track titles from previous albums that are made just peachy by the fact that the songs don't suck: Trapped under Ice, One, To Live is To Die, Phantom Lord, Call of Ktulu, Escape (OK, this song actually does suck), Metal Militia, etc. Almost all of the songs could have gone either way depending on their content, not their title. I know this is all we have to go on because we don't have any actual music to talk about, but let's not obssess too much over titles. As far as Unforgiven 3 goes, maybe James discovered that he had some more story for the life of our intrepid hero, and the story fit into one of the songs he wrote. Oh, and Seth wins the thread for suggesting "Unforgiven vs. Seasons in the Abyss."
Posted by Azrael @ 07/24/2008 10:48 AM EST
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I think D-J is correct that Metallica gave us the title names in reverse. The flow is much better and Unforgiven III as been mentioned would be song number 4. The song titles are good but they should leave off the "The" from Judas Kiss and End of the Line
Posted by Metal in AR @ 07/24/2008 11:05 AM EST
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Yo seth... have you seen pics of the new Jason? I have them on myspace. email me. JD, we'll agree to disagree, and at least I included my ball hair!
Posted by MOTORBREATH666 @ 07/24/2008 11:13 AM EST
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I think the title names look pretty cool. I was trying to remember the names of the songs when Load was coming out. I remember Raging Bull, Waiting in the Wings, and the rumor that Waiting in the Wings was the album title, but that's all. Do you guys remember?
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 07/24/2008 11:14 AM EST
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What's honestly wrong with the Unforgiven 2??? I like that song a lot actually. Not metal enough?
Posted by Nick @ 07/24/2008 12:16 PM EST
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Thing, I do remember the album titles floating around for ReLoad (I think it was ReLoad). Irascible, Waiting in the Wings, Raging Bull, all of them.
Nick, I like Unforgiven II, don't get me wrong. But the title and the "unforgiven too" line make me cringe a little.
Posted by DuManchu @ 07/24/2008 12:38 PM EST
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reverse!!
Posted by fingerprint @ 07/24/2008 12:56 PM EST
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i even wonder if they recorded stuff in reverse like the beatles and pink floyd once did. that'd be very coool.
Posted by fingerprint @ 07/24/2008 01:03 PM EST
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They did reverse in the intro of Blakened
Posted by Bleeding @ 07/24/2008 01:41 PM EST
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that's true i forgot about that. fixxxer's intro has it too. still nothing big though compared to beatles and floyd. the wait is killing me!
Posted by fingerprint @ 07/24/2008 02:41 PM EST
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Irascible. I can't remember the others, though. It sounds like the Metallica boys like HQ better than the studio where they recorded (Today's free FOTW). Sounds like they really have it "rough" at HQ. Man, I'd like to be a fly on the wall there or work for them.
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 07/24/2008 02:44 PM EST
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OK, seriously now, why in the world would they give us the track listing backwards? There is no point in that. It may look better one way or another, however, they structure the album on how well the tracks flow, not based on the titles. And since we have no idea what these tracks sound like, we can't even begin to speculate.
Posted by kurt @ 07/24/2008 03:17 PM EST
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As far as unforgiven III is concerned, I don't think it will be an instrumental. I think this because my guess is that the song will be the same vibe lyrically(hopefully without using the words unforgiven), but not so much musically. Or at least not so close musically as II was to I. I always thought II was just way too close to I structurally, and hearing "unforgiven too" just seemed cheesy. I think(hope) they have learned from past mistakes and realize they can't put out a 3rd song so similar. And this is why I think it will be a story about the same person(or same type of person), but sounding totally different.
Posted by kurt @ 07/24/2008 03:22 PM EST
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James is currently working on The Unforgiven Prequel.
Forgiven.
Posted by Die On Your Feet @ 07/24/2008 04:10 PM EST
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Kurt, I know, the whole backwards tracklisting sounds crazy, and you make good points, but I still think its backwards. Why would they 1. put ... at the end of the statement "Here are the song titles in the running order . . .", 2. not put the numbers next to them, and 3. mention the words running order in that statement? Thats fishy. Why not just say " Here is the tracklisting: 1. first song, 2. second song, etc...??? I think this is Metallica's way of throwing a curve ball at us because they know of the possibility of this info getting leaked. Running order? Doesn't that go without saying? They put it that way so they wouldn't be technically lying, the stuff is in its running order, just not ascending order, its descending order! You flip it and The Unforgiven III is 4th in line (which matches 1 and 2), The End Of The Line becomes the instrumental, and My Apocalypse becomes the first single. The first singles off these albums have traditionally come from one of the first few tracks. We know the first single will be a ballad. And we know James also said that My Apocalypse really fits him well with respect to its subject matter. The way he described it, it sounded to me like My Apocalypse was a particularly meaningful song, something that ballads especially have the ability of becoming more so than hard fast songs, which most of all the rest of the songs on the album are purported to be. I just don't see a song called My Apocalypse as being the final track of the album. I absolutely could be wrong in all of this, but who knows?!
Posted by D-J @ 07/24/2008 04:21 PM EST
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Hey, maybe so. I didn't read into the whole "running order" and didn't even notice the tracks weren't numbered. I just can't think of any real reason to bother putting it backwards, but I could be completely wrong. I just can't wait till september so I can hear the damn thing. I think all the songtitle, cover art, MM tidbits are all fine and good, but ultimately irrelevant to what our speakers are gonna tell in two months or so.
Posted by kurt @ 07/24/2008 04:44 PM EST
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I wonder if the song they are discussing in FOTW July 23rd is The Unforgiven III. Kind of sounds like it could be.
Posted by Dave @ 07/24/2008 05:50 PM EST
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Unforgiven III? So what? There are many bands that make sequels and what not to songs and no one cares until it's Metallica. I think it is a cool theme that you can expand on.
Posted by Nick @ 07/24/2008 06:07 PM EST
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It would be funnier if they made a song called 'Two'.
Posted by Die On Your Feet @ 07/24/2008 06:47 PM EST
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LOL! Who knows.......Siamese twins......O.k. that's harsh, but it's possible.
Posted by Dave @ 07/24/2008 06:59 PM EST
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Well, they had their self-titled "Metallica" album, which became known as "the Black Album", and based on the cover of this one, "Death Magnetic" could very well become known as "the White Album". Hmmmm....
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 07/24/2008 07:35 PM EST
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what happened to the song 'Vulturous'??
I like both unforgiven songs but the third one? Kinda odd but I'm keeping an open mind. I guess in III he's probably in jail because he murdered his lover in II right?('she'll be there when I'm gone/DEAD sure she'll be there')
Posted by Dragonboots @ 07/24/2008 10:26 PM EST
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So I have a question... when Metallica tours for this album... would you rather they play more of the new album than one or two songs, or do you guys like the "Classics" setlist?
Posted by Tipper @ 07/24/2008 11:18 PM EST
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I would say 3 songs, the rest classic. Even if this album completely blows my mind I would still say 3 songs
Posted by Mark @ 07/24/2008 11:29 PM EST
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I was thinking of this question a couple of days ago. I've seen the band live so many times and tracked down so many bootlegs and singles with live recordings just because there is a slightly new improv during a section of the song, that I really think I'd enjoy hearing more of the new album during their tour. Whether I love the songs or not, actually.
Posted by SRW @ 07/24/2008 11:49 PM EST
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The song list is in reverse, guaranteed. The Unforgiven Trilogy is a beautiful thing, no matter how you slice it. A real "to live is to die" life story and musical trilogy. One man's journey through his personal hardships, heartaches and negative, misspent anger. Then he dies and is gone forever, no longer in human form. But, before he dies, during his last dying moments, he realizes he's wasted his whole life away and is feels nothing but regret. The ultimate living a life without guidance and death is magnetic song trilogy. Death is the inevitable for us all, make the best of your life, before it's too late.
Posted by One Minute Closer To Death... @ 07/24/2008 11:58 PM EST
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I'm with SRW on the setlist thing. Obviously I love all their older stuff but I've had 20+ years of hearing it live, it's pretty cool to hear some of ther newer stuff live.
Posted by NoCreativeNameGuy @ 07/25/2008 12:04 AM EST
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Reload is 11 years old... I was thinking about how cool and how "classic" Devil's Dance sounds when played live. The attitude of that song fits in with the old stuff in my opinion.
Posted by Tipper @ 07/25/2008 12:26 AM EST
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Devil's Dance is very under rated and should b played live waaaaayyy more! I would like them to play 4 new songs live at least. How about Fixxxer for a suprise!? If I ever met them I would try and get them to pull that song off live.
Posted by Nick @ 07/25/2008 02:31 AM EST
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i'd like to hear some fresh new tunes on the next tour. SOOOOO TIRED of NEM, SEEK, LAST CARESS, SO WHAT, CREEPING DEATH. Those songs are beaten to death. They need to freshen things up a bit. Learn some new old songs already.
Posted by The General @ 07/25/2008 09:28 AM EST
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I would also like to hear more "newer stuff" including songs from the Load era that have not been played even once.
Example:
House that Jack Built
Cure
Thorn WIthin
Prince Charming
Wild things are
Fixxer
Posted by manguy @ 07/25/2008 09:34 AM EST
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I'm gonna be one of the first to disagree. I just don't think they would go for all the other publications doing news blurbs about this to be intentionally misled. Rolling Stone goes so far to say "The full track list and proper running order are after the jump."
Now the term "proper running order" seems more definitive to me than just "running order" just that they would be sure to include that key word. I would venture to have the opinion that through the hype and the wait many of us on this board are guilty of over analysis.
It really doesnt matter anyway. They could release 10 different versions w/ ten different tracklistings for all I care. And the CD cover art could be a picture of a guinea pig with a pancake on it's head for all I care. All that matters is the music and when. Not coffins, not posters, not flashdrives. I suppose it's possible they are returning to their older formulaic tracklisting, but I just don't think they will. My opinion.
Posted by Blaster of Muppets @ 07/25/2008 10:31 AM EST
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I wish they'd at least give us a relase date. Oh well, just a little over a month away. I know St Anger is already 5 years, but to me it doesn't seem that long ago. Maybe that's because we're always on here discussing the stuff they do. That and the fact that they constantly tour. I noticed that they still aren't playing any St Anger songs live yet. Also, I wish they'd mix up the setlist a little more, too...replace Creep with Fight Fire and maybe take Fuel off, end with Whiplash or some other song besides Seek. Just my random thoughts.
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 07/25/2008 10:45 AM EST
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I'd like to get 1-3 load/reload/st. anger/2 S&M tracks per show. I'd like a bit more variety in the older stuff(I've seen creeping every time I have seen them) and in the TBA stuff. Obviously they will always play sandman, but they could replace NEM with a different balad and sad but true with another slow stomper(devil's dance). If this next album is what we think it will be, I'd like 3-5 songs from it. Hell, I'd be open to them performing the whole thing like Maiden did on one leg of their last tour with their new record.
Posted by kurt @ 07/25/2008 11:43 AM EST
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wait for the 27th guys, it's gonna be a great wonderful day for all of us! hopefully you'll see why when the day arrives..
Posted by fingerprint @ 07/25/2008 11:44 AM EST
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The 27th of July, ie this Sunday? There's only one thing that could make it a great, wonderful day: hearing a new song. So thats what you are saying?
Posted by D-J @ 07/25/2008 12:39 PM EST
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Track Listing Boys and Girls (Leak Central #27) 27th of August? I bet it is a hint....
Posted by Nick @ 07/25/2008 01:13 PM EST
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Ultimately, I think four or five DM songs a night is a good total. More than anything, I just want to see more variety in the setlists. And for them to play a little longer too, although if these DM songs are as long as we think they are, that will probably take care of itself once they're incorporated into the set.
Posted by Trace @ 07/25/2008 01:25 PM EST
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Something to maybe add to the hint...
July 27 in Istanbul, TURKEY is their last show before Ozzfest about 2 weeks later. So something big might be happening on the 27th it sounds.It's gotta be a new song!
Posted by Nick @ 07/25/2008 02:50 PM EST
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metallica.com is down...update maybe??? or maybe nothing at all
Posted by Mark @ 07/25/2008 04:14 PM EST
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I bet they'e gonna anounce the release date this sunday. Hopfully play a new song too, but i think it's the release date that we should expet. They gave us the cover, track list aleady so what's left other than the rlease date. It would really cool for them to play a new song to get even more pumped for this damn album to come out!!!!!! METALLICA RULES!!! Also, Kirk is supposed to play a dimebag darrel tribute show...one of the other guests is Kerry King. I wish I was able to attend that show just so I could yell out FUCK KERRY KING!!!! to that fucking asshole. I hope Kirk plays some crazy shit so that he shuts the fuck up and learn how to play guitar like a professional.
Posted by MONSTER @ 07/25/2008 07:51 PM EST
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http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICR-9028
Japan-only release on 09/10/08. As you can see, this is on a new type of CD. EMS shipping from Japan can be as fast as 3 days, so you may even get it before the US release date. Back catalog is also being released on the new format.
Posted by deadvi @ 07/25/2008 09:28 PM EST
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Ok, I don't want to doubt someone's sincerity here, but one person who keeps posting sounds like they're part of the Metalli-Marketing machine. Maybe I'm just too cynical to believe that someone who has never heard the album could be so hot on everything about the album already. Is that you, Peter Mensch?
Posted by Azrael @ 07/25/2008 11:26 PM EST
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Azrael... who are you talking about?
Posted by Tipper @ 07/26/2008 12:49 AM EST
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Hey, just following on from the whole reversing the song order theory, here's a new theory for ya... I have a theory that the cover art they gave us is also reversed. Save a copy of the cover and view it as a negative... Looks pretty wicked, eh...?
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 07/26/2008 01:50 AM EST
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Thank you Azrael...I have been thinking the exact same thing not necessarily Peter Mensch but someone.
Posted by Happy but False @ 07/26/2008 02:05 AM EST
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I'm not sure, maybe the guy is just looking to write blurbs for paperback novels.... "an enchanting trip through the magnetic field that surrounds death... It's the feel-good album of the summer. If you only buy one new Metallica album this year, make it 'Death Magnetic'." Soon to be a major motion picture directed by Quentin Tarrantino. Ok, I'm clearly tired and babbling.
Posted by Azrael @ 07/26/2008 02:12 AM EST
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Damn, Harvester: It looks WAAAAYYYY better inverted. It would be really sweet if that ends up being the case.
Posted by caspian @ 07/26/2008 12:12 PM EST
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Here is a piece of blogger review of the new album wich we have read before:
"The next song has a working title of 'Flamingo' and is going to be the first single. Now, Metallica’s lead singles have been breathtakingly crap since 1995, so it was a relief to hear that 'Flamingo' (as it almost definitely will not be called) is a modernised take on their amazing 1988 song One, all balladry at its front end before a speeded-up metalstorm at the back. Hetfield delivers a clean-picked intro which reminded me of the Beach Boys (I know but I only got to hear it once, all right?) before the body of the song, which is basically like 'The Unforgiven' from 1991’s ’Black Album’. If you’re familiar with the chord progression behind the solo in 'Am I Evil?', the ancient Diamond Head song which Metallica made their own, you’ll be able to picture the under-solo riffage in this song " all simple, effective major-interval jumps."
I have a very strong feeling that the "Flamingo" riff we got to hear from Rob in that video clip is a piece of Unforgiven III!!!!!
Posted by NoCreativeNameGuy @ 07/26/2008 02:50 PM EST
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I wonder since all of these song will be made available for download on Guitar Hero if they are all somewhat catchy.
Posted by Ice Nine @ 07/26/2008 04:32 PM EST
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Actually, I think that the fact they want to make this WHOLE album playable on Guitar Hero the same day the album comes out is EXACTLY why we don't have a release date. I am a software developer, so I can imagine it all depends on the engine used for adding songs into Guitar Hero. If Guitar Hero's game engine allows you to simple feed it a song, well, in that case, I am wrong and the Guitar Hero songs are not slowing down the release date of the album. But, on the other hand, if there is a bit more programming that goes into it, then that could be why we still don't have the date. In effect, they are trying to ready two projects for the same date. Does anyone here know if adding songs for playability to Guitar Hero is a straightforward process or not?
Posted by D-J @ 07/26/2008 05:06 PM EST
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what about the newest, july 26th FOTW, Larz talking about Ktulu 2, and how he wants it to be an instrumental? Then Rob mentions putting vocals to it and Lars said that would make that track frrl like Trapped Under Ice. Is that a dis on TUI? I ought to slap him, lol.
Posted by The General @ 07/26/2008 06:42 PM EST
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Adding songs to Guitar Hero must be a complicated process because there would alredy be a million songs to download. And you have to add the fact that the metallica album will be playable on the GH 4 witch will have a drum set and vocal so it must be time consuming. I'm a project manager in IT and you made a realy good point D-J, since they probably get "officials" songs maybe at the end of last spring, beggining of summer, they have to code it quikly. There is probably one engine for the Xbox 360, another one for the PS3 and Wii!
Posted by Bleeding @ 07/26/2008 07:21 PM EST
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I have heard that the next Guitar Hero or maybe it is Rock Band... will let you encode your own songs... I don't know if this means any song you want, or a song you make up.
Posted by Tipper @ 07/26/2008 08:35 PM EST
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I'm pumped to hear they're putting an instrumental on the album. And not just that - they WANTED to do it...it would be nice to have Orion 2...but oh well
Posted by James @ 07/26/2008 10:15 PM EST
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oh wow! Orion 2 would be a dream!
"Return of Orion"
Posted by Tipper @ 07/27/2008 08:19 AM EST
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The boys played some of Remember Tomorrow on the MetOnTour vid. on 7-25-08-pretty cool. Its starts w/ James, Kirk and Rob and then later on Lars comes into the room and gets right into it.
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 07/27/2008 10:40 AM EST
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i know its a little late but u guys were talking about posting some music....http://www.riffworld.com/Members/xino/razor-lips
check it out, thats me playing guitars and bass
Posted by xino @ 07/27/2008 12:16 PM EST
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Xino - Cool shit, dude. Kind of got that spacey - Satriani feel to it. I like it.
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 07/27/2008 08:03 PM EST
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i know that all that thing about the track list , title track ,cover etc etc its for the hype but all that energy spend to this could be used for something else hahahaha
its just music all that cares is the music
Posted by Kotrinio @ 07/27/2008 08:20 PM EST
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so I guess no new song or news at the show tonite.....
Posted by marcus @ 07/27/2008 08:48 PM EST
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So straight from Lars' mouth, "mid to late September release". Shit...
Posted by NoCreativeNameGuy @ 07/27/2008 09:33 PM EST
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If there's one album you should own, before you die, it's Metallica's soon to be released, "Death Magnetic". Enjoy the new album this September! Enjoy your life everyday! Life is short, death is forever...
Posted by One Minute Closer To Death... @ 07/27/2008 11:06 PM EST
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I don't know about you guys, but I'll be one of the first guys in line to purchase the new album. If I'm alive and well, I will be buying and enjoying "Death Magnetic", this September. I'm just another guy who thinks he's Metallica's #1 fan! An insider, I am not.
Posted by One Minute Closer To Death... @ 07/27/2008 11:15 PM EST
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Um.... Are you a robot or something?
As others have mentioned, is seems like you're a plant for the Metalli-marketing machine. Either that or you just like saying cliched sayings. If you're not a plant, rock on man, but you sound a little unreal.
Posted by DuManchu @ 07/28/2008 09:51 AM EST
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Loving today's fotw with Jaymz. Look for RIM to start a new marketing campaign... "Are you the lead singer/songwriter for the biggest heavy metal band on the planet? Need a place to compose new lyrics while on the go? Keep them in your Blackberry Curve!" I notice he wasn't using the pink one. ;-) Oh, and those lyrics and that riff are just cool.
Posted by Azrael @ 07/28/2008 12:08 PM EST
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So they've announced Met Club/Mission Metallica member shows for Berlin on Sept 12th and London on Sept 15th. And with that I think we can probably pencil in Sept 15th/16th as the release date of the album.
Posted by Trace @ 07/28/2008 12:55 PM EST
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I think the speculation earlier that the release of the Guitar Hero game is delaying the release of the album is pretty much dead-on. Programming the songs can take a long time if the songs are complex (there's some interesting interviews with the devs about having to program the DragonFarce song/protools demo for GH3 and how long it takes.) So considering that the album wasn't done until just recently and they weren't able to send it to the devs, I think they're just waiting for the word from the game makers about when it'll be ready. I don't think I've ever seen a release date be this difficult to nail down, so I think the unique nature of this release must be the cause. Either that or Lars is just f'ing with the record company "We'll release it if you.... stand on one hand while singing Britney Spears songs and doing a hula. Then we'll pick a date!"
Posted by Azrael @ 07/28/2008 03:25 PM EST
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Mr. One Minute Closer To Death, you make me wanna puke. I love Metallica, but can u say anything more corny than u already have in each post? Lets keep it inside buddy.
Posted by Nick @ 07/28/2008 03:46 PM EST
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Hmmm... the post on Metallica.com says "On September 12 in Berlin, Germany and on September 15 in London, England we'll be hosting a little bash to celebrate the blessed event of the upcoming addition to the Metallica family/catalog". I think they key thing in there is the use of the word "upcoming". To me, this says that the album will not be coming out until some time after the gig on the 15th. Maybe there is some weight to the theory about the hint "Leak Central #27" meaning that it could be released on the 27th of September.
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 07/28/2008 05:48 PM EST
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atleast he ain't here to talk shit about metallica
Posted by Tony @ 07/28/2008 07:29 PM EST
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If it does turn out to be Sept. 27th, I'm definitely going to get the Japanese release on the 10th (assuming that date doesn't change)
Posted by deadvi @ 07/28/2008 09:37 PM EST
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Yeah tony. I mean, only positive comments about Metallica are allowed here, because everything they do and have ever done is far above criticism.
Also: quite a relief that LoG aren't supporting Metallica. Now that would be embarrasing.
Ideal tour (well, within boundaries, doubt they'll do a tour with Sigur Ros or Jesu anytime soon):
Metallica, Mastodon and The Lord Weird Slough Feg. <3
Posted by caspian @ 07/28/2008 11:45 PM EST
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I'm not a Metalli-marketing plant, I'm the guy who likes to comment about the big white elephant in the living room, if you haven't already noticed. I'm also a MetallicA fan for life ('til death do us part). Do you think I obsess about dying a little too much? I will admit, my posts do come across as a bit robotic and I 'm sorry if I've made anyone want to vomit because of that. Maybe I'll start taking it back a notch or two, if it makes for a better discussion. Death is obviously too heavy for some of you guys. For most people, It's not the easiest subject to discuss. And for some other people, I guess death is old news, it's too boring and cliched. Well then, keep on pushing the thought of dying away and maybe death will skip you and go to the next guy.
Posted by One Minute Closer To Death... @ 07/28/2008 11:49 PM EST
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The 27th is a Saturday. They're not releasing the album on a Saturday. I really don't think the number 27 means much of anything.
Posted by Trace @ 07/29/2008 12:14 AM EST
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As long as this thing drops in september the world will be well. I am so confident in Rubin's talent as a producer that I think this album will define the bands legacy and put them in a serious discussion with the all time greats like zepplin, the stones, beatles, etc. I turn 30 on september 3rd, and I have been litening to Metallica since I was ten. To some degree the band's music has been a bit of a soundtrack to my life. I am truly grateful for every "era" of Metallica, and I cannot wait for Death Magnetic.
Posted by ole @ 07/29/2008 12:42 AM EST
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Don't worry, OMCTD, I like reading your very deep, (and sometimes disturbing) posts. Fuck it, man, say whatever you like.
And Trace, why wouldn't they release it on a Saturday...??? I've seen heaps of albums come out on a Saturday. It'd be the perfect day to release it, cause most people are not at work.
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 07/29/2008 01:08 AM EST
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Ole, i really like your idea of metallica to be a soundtrack of my life! I'm 28 and i'm listening to their music since i was 6. Each "era" brings" different memmories to me and are associated with a life style that i had at those times. Very interesting...
Posted by Bleeding @ 07/29/2008 07:48 AM EST
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I had no idea I was affected this much by the wait for the new album... Last night, I literally had a dream that I was listening to a broadcast of Metallica playing Ozzfest, playing new songs. The quality wasn't so good, so I couldn't make out the songs too well. I could barely tell the first one was Holy Revolver. But they called it something else instead! They played another new one right after that one, and it sounded like Rob Zombie, so that was cool. But again, the title was not on the tracklisting. I remember saying "those sneaky bastards." Actually, the song titles were horrible! I was bummed they lost all the cool titles that they have now. What a weird dream...
Posted by D-J @ 07/29/2008 09:19 AM EST
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Some guy over on metallicabb.com posted this earlier:
Ok, you guys don't have to believe me and that's fine, but I want to tell you all some news I heard today. My cousin Lauren is working as a production assistant at KROQ here in NYC this summer (she's a junior comm major at NYU) and I've been bugging her almost daily asking whether she's heard anything about new Metallica. She called me earlier today and said they received a CD single of 'The Day That Never Comes' with an air date for this Wednesday, starting after 8pm EST. She said there are 2 versions- a radio edit clocking in a 6:02 and the full version at 7:45. She said it came with a legal notice from Warner explaining the severe legal ramifications if the single is played earlier or is leaked and traced back to this tracked copy. KROQ is one of the largest rock stations in the country and they do usually get new music first- I've been listening to them since I've been a kid. And no, she wasn't allowed to listen to it- apparently no one there is before Wednesday morning.
I have to say, I'm pretty stoked, but still not totally convinced. I could totally see this being revealed on M:M first thing Wednesday, then hitting the air that night across the country. Fingers crossed...
Posted by D-J @ 07/29/2008 01:06 PM EST
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D-J, I know what you mean. I had a dream the other night that I was driving a Subaru Forester and jamming the new album. The only thing is, the new album had both "New Songs" on it, and I knew that wasn't right.
Not sure why I was driving a Forester though...
Posted by DuManchu @ 07/29/2008 01:07 PM EST
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...of course, considering this guy named The Day That Never Comes as the single, he could be just joking. Oh the irony. Of course, none of us believed the Unforgiven III would be a song title, and it was.
Posted by D-J @ 07/29/2008 01:09 PM EST
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Ok... I thought, I'm gonna call MY local rock station and ask about the rumors of a new single coming out. I JUST called 93Rock (http://93rock.com/inside/contact_us.html), which is a station in Miami, and asked the girl there and she said there is a single to be released within a few days!!! Why don't some of you guys call your local rock station and confirm it and see if you can find out anything else?? C'mon people, team effort!!!
Posted by D-J @ 07/29/2008 01:20 PM EST
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Sent off an email to one of the DJ's at 98.9 The Rock in KC. Hope they get back to me with something.
Posted by DuManchu @ 07/29/2008 01:26 PM EST
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Actually, there are more posts on metallicabb.com from other people also calling their radio stations and they are getting confirmations too. Suhweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!! We'll all be in Metalli-heaven come tomorrow night!
Posted by D-J @ 07/29/2008 01:34 PM EST
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Hmmm... there's some speculation this hype might just be Remember Tomorrow. Can some of you call your stations and try to get more info?
Posted by D-J @ 07/29/2008 01:58 PM EST
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KQRC 89.9 The Rock in KC has been playing "Remember Tomorrow" for a few days now. So I don't think it's that. Plus, that was released in Kerrang, and is not a Warner recording (I believe).
Posted by DuManchu @ 07/29/2008 02:02 PM EST
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* I meant 98.9, not 89.9 *
Posted by DuManchu @ 07/29/2008 02:03 PM EST
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Ok, it looks like this was all some sort of sick, twisted joke. http://www.923krock.com/Metallica-Shreds-/2687346 Someone needs to die. Still, my station said they'd be getting something within days. I am emotionally exhausted. I give up.
Posted by D-J @ 07/29/2008 03:24 PM EST
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The confirmation that a TON of people on metallicabb got owned big-time:
Yeah man, I'm here. Talked to my cousin- she and a couple other interns made this up and sent it to me and a few other people in the NY area. I was just naive enough to post it on this board. I was as excited as you guys. Sorry, my intention was not to mislead everyone! This was a unified misinformation prank by the interns at K-Rock. Me, you and everyone else is on this board got totally UBER DOMINATION PWNED!
Posted by D-J @ 07/29/2008 04:19 PM EST
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LOL, that's fucking great. We're all so hungry for a new single, or even some more news, that some people would believe just about any bullshit story. D-J said it best - the irony of us waiting for the day that never comes - the day we get a new Metallica single! Although, I will admit I got caught out last year by the Metallica "Gone With You" single hoax, which turned out to be a band called "Am I Blood", who sound very much like Metallica. Pity... I really liked that song. Still do, it's just not Metallica.
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 07/29/2008 06:25 PM EST
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"Death Magnetic! Prophecy Reveal!"
Posted by Dave @ 07/29/2008 07:36 PM EST
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LOL! D-J, you rock man. Reading your obsession with Metallica makes me feel better about my own obsession. nice to know there are other junkies out there :)
Posted by NoCreativeNameGuy @ 07/29/2008 08:45 PM EST
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I just feel for the poor bastard that originally, and unwittingly, posted the bad info from his cousin...
Posted by D-J @ 07/29/2008 11:46 PM EST
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Damn it's nice to see so much chatter here. Everybody's balls are as blue as the the deepest parts of the ocean. I feel like I'm a little kid on Christmas Eve waiting for Santa Clause. I guess absence makes the heart grow fonder. Still, hurry the fuck up and release the album boys!
Posted by ole @ 07/30/2008 04:45 AM EST
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just a quick shout out to Bleeding. I appreciate your wisdom. And to NoCreativeNameGuy. I love when you post because your name is a catch 22 and it's totally cool. intersandmann brings out the real fans. wish i wouldn't have been away for so long. I'm glad to see The General is still around. Anyways, sorry to break the flow of conversation, I'm just pumped like the rest of you all, and can't keep my mind off the new album.
Posted by ole @ 07/30/2008 06:11 AM EST
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how long you been gone for? You've missed a lot. Let me fill you in......so back in 1991 Metallica released "Metallica" (also known as The Black Album)the self-titled 5th studio album. It was released on August 13, 1991. They followed it up with a world tour following the Metallica album, initially dubbed the Wherever We May Roam Tour and then later the Nowhere Else to Roam Tour, which saw the band on the road for the next three years. The tour was in part documented in the A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica documentary, as well as the 3-CD, 2-DVD (or 3-VHS) boxset Live Shit: Binge & Purge. Then in 1996, they cut their hair.....lol.
Posted by The General @ 07/30/2008 09:28 AM EST
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Well, I've never gone as far as calling a DJ, but the blue-ball inducing anticipation is pretty nutty. I check this site, 4horsemen and MissionMetallica probably once an hour or so while at work. I've got a question as far as DM on guitar hero. How would you go about getting that? I have a Wii. My brother got all those GHIII downloads, but his systems(playstation and xbox) are all set up like computers. I don't have all that shit, just the games. Is there a way to get those songs without having the game system hooked up to a computer?
Posted by kurt @ 07/30/2008 09:52 AM EST
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This album is way overdue. Six years between albums... I could understand 3-4 years, but 6 years is pushing it. Lets get it out and see a tour in the States.
Posted by Bond @ 07/30/2008 10:12 AM EST
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im gonna stop breathing til the single comes out..starting now....
Posted by xino @ 07/30/2008 11:39 AM EST
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Look what I found in wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Magnetic
It says that the release date for POLAND will be 09/15. Pretty near from that 09/10 release date for JAPAN, dont you guys think? I think I'll stick to middle Sept instead of late Sept (Lars words) before DM hits Us.
Posted by EPDA @ 07/30/2008 12:24 PM EST
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Well regardless who gets it first, it'll be all over the internet within 3 minutes of it's release. So I don't care where it comes out first, just COME OUT ALREADY!
Posted by NoCreativeNameGuy @ 07/30/2008 12:34 PM EST
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Let's all have a moment of silence for xino... No, wait, xino would have wanted a moment of intense, loud, Metallica playing!
Posted by D-J @ 07/30/2008 12:45 PM EST
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This release date speculation is pissing me off... The release dates aren't going to be as far from each other as they are being reported in various areas. Wait till you hear from Metallica.. ugh.
Posted by Nick @ 07/30/2008 01:19 PM EST
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ahhh... I think we've seen this before guys...
Remember the St Anger release date ordeal? It was released a week or two before to avoid potential early leaks of the album. I predict we'll get it early to mid-September.
Posted by Tipper @ 07/30/2008 07:16 PM EST
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I have a reliable source that says we'll get the new album some time in September. I'll have to check my crystal ball for more info...
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 07/30/2008 07:56 PM EST
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Sure HOS, we've heard this sort of thing before... I'm not believing it.
Posted by Azrael @ 07/30/2008 10:13 PM EST
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Death by anticipation, imagine that. 5 years is a long time, but it will be well worth the wait. I'm pretty sure some MetallicA fans die between albums. How about a moment of silence for the fallen fans. I'm being serious, too. I hope I live to enjoy MetallicA's whole career of music. Life is temporary, death is permanent...I just had to throw that in there. Thanks HOS and Tony for the kind words. We're not getting any younger, release the "Death Magnetic" musical masterpiece, already!
Posted by One Minute Closer To Death... @ 07/30/2008 11:03 PM EST
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There's such a thing as "Death-Obsessed" you know. OMCTD, I'm not trying to be rude and I hope you understand, but I don't mention "fudge brownies" every time I comment.
oh, by the way... fudge brownies.
Posted by Tipper @ 07/31/2008 12:49 AM EST
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I second that thought Tipper. OMCTD, I don't want to question your musical taste, but I think you might be happier posting on a death-metal site. I'm worried about ya, dude. Death is just a step towards an uncertain future. I suggest listening to hero of the day, wherever I may roam, nothing else matters, and eye of the beholder for some inspiration. Not trying to judge or hate on you, bro, just a thought.
Posted by ole @ 07/31/2008 01:57 AM EST
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..because death metallers are obsessed with death? ?
OMCTD sounds like a 13 year old who's pet dog just died.
Posted by caspian @ 07/31/2008 05:46 AM EST
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I certainly didn't mean to offend people that are into death-metal. Just not really my scene.
Posted by ole @ 07/31/2008 07:19 AM EST
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I happen to love Death-Metal!
....and fudge brownies...
Posted by Tipper @ 07/31/2008 08:01 AM EST
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Ole,
I like how you used the phrase "uncertain future" to describe post-death.
Whether you are someone of faith or atheist/agnostict, satanist etc. the one thing we all have in common as that we don't know what happens after death. We can only believe or not believe.
Well, looks like Metallica has already got us talking about the concept of their album, and its not even out yet!
You thought Fade to Black was depressing....
Posted by manguy @ 07/31/2008 08:50 AM EST
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i love phil but u gotta admit hes starting to sound more and more like cartman
Posted by sean @ 07/31/2008 10:07 AM EST
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when did Captain Lou Albino start playing guitar for Down? Pepper is awesome, too bad he's playing with suck anselmo. yo Pep, where's the new COC album? and DEATH MAGNETIC where art thou?
Posted by The General @ 07/31/2008 05:00 PM EST
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Damn, the release date is still almost two months away. Can you say anticipation overload!!! Sure glad it's summertime, makes the wait so much easier. Right? We're all just visitors here on earth, when our time is up, we will all walk through death's doorway which leads to an uncertain future. Embrace the time you have left in human form. Life rocks. Death sucks. And Phil Anselmo sucks rocks, just kidding, I actually like Down a lot, mostly because of Pepper Keenan. A new COC album would be awesome! Bring on the musical masterpiece, otherwise known as DEATH MAGNETIC!!!
Posted by One Minute Closer To Death... @ 07/31/2008 11:12 PM EST
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oh my god! I can't wait for Death Magnetic!
fudge brownies.
Posted by Tipper @ 08/01/2008 12:46 AM EST
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xino, is there a 2nd part of the interview w/ James that you posted? I didn't see one-not sure if there's supposed to be.
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 08/01/2008 12:57 AM EST
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Thanks for the link.
Posted by SRW @ 08/01/2008 01:08 AM EST
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cheers for the links, thingy.
Posted by caspian @ 08/01/2008 05:27 AM EST
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..and xino :P
Posted by caspian @ 08/01/2008 05:28 AM EST
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Metallica has or is in the middle of shooting the video for "the day that never comes".
So we know that is the first single now. Just no dates, as usual.
I think it has been part of their plan to just drop things on us out of nowhere, with little to no media coverage. Which may also be a harkening back to the old days. Less commercialized.
Posted by manguy @ 08/01/2008 09:18 AM EST
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It was nice to hear Kirk confirm that Unforgiven III doesn't have much to do with 1 or 2 other than it is a ballady type song.
Posted by kurt @ 08/01/2008 09:35 AM EST
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James said Instrumental!! yes!!
Posted by Mark @ 08/01/2008 09:35 AM EST
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Thanks for the video links. James seems like a cool, honest guy. I'm glad these guys are still around.
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 08/01/2008 10:02 AM EST
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Allright!End of August the single will hit the stores!
Posted by Jesius @ 08/01/2008 10:17 AM EST
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To any Mission Metallica members, what did you guys think of the Fly on the Wall Video 2 today? Whatever song they were working on sounded awesome. Can't wait for September.
Posted by G @ 08/01/2008 11:59 AM EST
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Hell Yeah ! Finally we got more than 0.30 ms of a song ! It sounds something like Blackened/Battery + a bit of some Slayery style stuff. That song is going to kick some serious ass just based on that riff !
Posted by $trangeR @ 08/01/2008 12:31 PM EST
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Two things:
1. where exactly does James say there with be an instrumental? I've watched that interview and I seem to be missing it, somehow.
2. when that FOTW2 video is put up on Youtube, can someone point the rest of us to it?! Thanks!
Posted by D-J @ 08/01/2008 12:39 PM EST
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Yeah, the FOTW stuff today was pretty damn good. I like how after a few takes, they had kirk use that other little thingy(not a musician here), that added that short little sound effect. Pretty cool stuff, hope it made the record.
Posted by kurt @ 08/01/2008 12:43 PM EST
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D-J .. I guess he doesnt say it exactly in so many words...but its around 2:30 of the james interview, part 1. "Its much more like master of puppets..a ballad, an instrumenal, a fast song.. slow long epic.." ...that all i was refeerring to
Posted by Mark @ 08/01/2008 01:55 PM EST
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video looks to be cool, kind of I Disappear-ish....but....HETFIELD WHY AREN'T YOU PLAYING AN EXPLORER?????
Posted by The General @ 08/01/2008 02:39 PM EST
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YES...............there is an instrumental, awesome. Unforgiven III (the ballad) doesn't really have to do with the other two which sounds good (it has to be better than II) and that FOTW was great, and $tranger is right, does sound like battery/blackened with a hint of slayer in it. All i can say that I am dying to hear the single and get the album. DM is gonna make people realize again who the best heavy metal band in the world is and ever will be.
Posted by MONSTER @ 08/01/2008 02:41 PM EST
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Come on, some of you Platinum members have got to have that vid uploaded to YouTube by now. Share the wealth man!
Posted by DuManchu @ 08/01/2008 03:16 PM EST
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Metallica is such a great band, not just musicly, but also as people. THey keep it real and really do care about the people. YOur realy can't say that anymore in today's entertainment world. Lot of celebrty lose it after a few years of fame and money, but metallica has kept their stuff together. You can't tell that they are multimillionaires.
Posted by Pepsi @ 08/01/2008 03:48 PM EST
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I agree with you Pepsi. I don't know of another band or musician that is as down to earth and cool as our boys. The only other peopel that come to mind are Zakk Wylde and Godsmack. Am I wrong?
Posted by MONSTER @ 08/01/2008 05:08 PM EST
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General..there are a couple of reasons James isn't playing the Explorer as much now:
1) ESP aren't making EXPs...Het made them too popular so Gibson sued ESP over design rights.
2) Hes more comfortable playing with the Les Paul/ESP Eclipse style guitar (I think this has to do with his previous back problems)
Posted by Devilman @ 08/01/2008 06:57 PM EST
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IT'S OFFICIAL!! SEPTEMBER 12TH BABIES!!!!!
Posted by Dave @ 08/01/2008 08:29 PM EST
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Pretty sure I said September 11, didn't I? WHO WAS THE CLOSEST, BITCHES!
Posted by caspian @ 08/01/2008 08:55 PM EST
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w00t!!!
And now the REAL waiting game begins...
Posted by DuManchu @ 08/01/2008 10:27 PM EST
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re: Kirk interview.
She actually asked Kirk who he thought was responsible for the current state of the world!
What the hell?
Kirk is entitled to his opinion as anyone else, but man we don't listen to Kirk for political commentary, Metallica related sound bites only!
I am a political junkie, so I consult journals and various media outlets etc. not celebrities.
Posted by manguy @ 08/01/2008 11:13 PM EST
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Congrats, Caspian... As the person who got closest to the release date, you win.... Sweet Fuck-All!!!! LOL
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 08/01/2008 11:45 PM EST
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Oh no. The Jason comments are likely to create a shiatstorm. But seriously, Jason Newsted and Rob Trujillo are both Bass players like a Ford Fiesta and a Ferrari are both cars... Ok, that's not fair. Like a Camaro and a Ferrari are both sports cars. Rob is easily the best bass player to ever play in Metallica, and possibly the best bass player to ever play metal... Cliff might have reached a level approaching Rob if he'd lived, but he wasn't there yet. The Shaolin Bass Master is metal incarnate.
Posted by Azrael @ 08/02/2008 01:27 AM EST
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metallica.com offical release date sept.12th
Posted by Brandon @ 08/02/2008 07:54 AM EST
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man will somebody that knows how to work a computer post the last FOTW video somehow...
Posted by Marcus @ 08/02/2008 09:00 AM EST
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Let the Count Down begin, 42 days till the album!
Posted by Bond @ 08/02/2008 10:22 AM EST
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"Rob is easily the best bass player to ever play in Metallica, and possibly the best bass player to ever play metal..." Haha, what? Are you serious? Leaving aside the fairly obvious fact that Cliff is better, are you familiar with Geezer Butler? LEMMY??? Perhaps you should listen to more then 1 metal band before making this comment.
Posted by caspian @ 08/02/2008 12:57 PM EST
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You know I love how many of you guys bitch about mission metallica, but want the clips posted so badly. I've got the platinum level and the videos for the past few days have been insane...but there's not a chance i'm going to post them for free, because i actually paid money for it - and i'm getting my money's worth!
Posted by Jim @ 08/02/2008 01:34 PM EST
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Agreed.
Posted by Nick @ 08/02/2008 02:24 PM EST
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My god yesterdays fly on the wall with Kirk was the shit!! That riff is f***ing insane!! "Spit it out!"
Posted by Nick @ 08/02/2008 02:32 PM EST
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Hell yea it was...the guys in the booth went crazy when they added the flanger...
There is some serious speed on the new album, moreso than i think a lot of people are expecting.
Posted by Jim @ 08/02/2008 02:54 PM EST
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Steve Harris is pretty good too.
Posted by Seth @ 08/02/2008 03:19 PM EST
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u need to read the info on the song..its just the posters attempt at creating a song with all the riffs and excerpts from mission metallica
Posted by xino @ 08/02/2008 05:33 PM EST
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john myung
tony levin
Posted by xino @ 08/02/2008 05:34 PM EST
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It's definitely not a real demo, the guy who posted it left these comments for the description...
"Hi!
This is demo of a new song "The day that never comes" from the newest Metallica album Death Magnetic.
No solos and vocal.
NOT!
This is only my suggestion of how it could sound. I've recorded everything based on the riffs and parts from Mission Metallica."
Posted by BoNeZ @ 08/02/2008 05:34 PM EST
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Damn Xino, quicker than I am lol!
Posted by BoNeZ @ 08/02/2008 05:35 PM EST
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sorry for the posts in a row
i was talking about bass players...i believe the most talented bass player (technical wise) would be billy shehann o hower u spell his name...check out his work with mr. big (with paul gilbert) or his work with david lee roth (with Steve Vai)
Posted by xino @ 08/02/2008 05:37 PM EST
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Billy Sheehan is a very skilled bass player. But, like many musicians that are amazingly skilled, they seem to sacrifice "feeling" to me. They play all the right notes, just seems to be lacking something to my ears. Stu Hamm, on the other hand is an amazing bass player that's highly skilled that seems to have kept some of that "feel" to my ears. Check out Victor Wooten, too.
Posted by IS-JD @ 08/02/2008 06:00 PM EST
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Geezer and Lemmy. LOL. Seriously? Capable, hardly virtuouso's. I wouldn't really put Billy Sheehan in metal, same with someone like Geddy Lee or Les Claypool. Steve Harris is pretty high up there, but doesn't have the diverse skillset of Rob. People have their preferences, so I'll let this one die, but Caspian, I do pay attention to plenty of other players. Rob is an incredibly gifted bass player capable of a wide variety of musical styles that he brings to metal. But you can have any favorite you like, as long as it's not the tard from DragonFarce.
Posted by Azrael @ 08/02/2008 06:09 PM EST
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Yeah, as cool as Motorhead are, Lemmy is definitely not much of a bass player. He even admits that he can't play bass. He was a rhythm guitarist (I think he was in Hawkwind at the time) who picked up the bass because nobody else would... and he just strums it like a guitar!!! But, it's a unique style and he has become his trademark, (apart from the insane angle of his mic and his gutteral vocals, that is).
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 08/02/2008 07:08 PM EST
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Geezer is an incredible bass player.
Steve Harris? bah. He writes boring music.
Posted by IS-JD @ 08/02/2008 07:16 PM EST
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I wasn't referring to either Lemmy or Geezer for their tech skills. They're both just extremely capable songwriters (which, at this point, we don't really know about Trujillo- Suicidal were cool but hardly anywhere near on the same level). Trujillo may be able to play faster then Lemmy but that means shit- Malmsteem, the dude from poison, bon jovi's guitarist etc. could probably play a good deal faster then Hendrix, but Hendrix is clearly the better guitarist.
Rob is good, sure; but calling him the best is just, well, wrong. That's not an opinion or anything either- that's fact, and the whole "it's all subjective thing" doesn't work here (it'd be like me claiming I'm the best guitar player ever- it's just not correct).
Posted by caspian @ 08/02/2008 07:50 PM EST
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The wait makes it difficult to be a Metallica fan sometimes, but... it will always be easier than being a Guns 'n Roses fan!
September 12th! 40 more days!
Posted by Tipper @ 08/03/2008 07:41 AM EST
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oh and Happy Birthday James! 45!
Posted by Tipper @ 08/03/2008 09:00 AM EST
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Holy shit... Wow... That clip with Kirk playing... You've GOT to be kidding me... People's faces will melt right off when they hear that song the first time. Actually, that's a GREAT idea for the video for that song. Just show the band playing to a crowd and people's faces start melting off. That'd be so fucking cool. heheheh... All the new comer bands that think they are badass will suddenly feel small and inadequate when Death Magnetic comes out. Soon, they will be reminded of the hierachy, with Metallica on FUCKING TOP! YEAH!!!
Posted by D-J @ 08/03/2008 10:44 AM EST
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Happy 45th Papa Het!!!Metallica rules the world!!Death Fckn Magnetic!!!Cant Wait!!
Posted by ND @ 08/03/2008 06:04 PM EST
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45 years old, and (hopefully) getting better and heavier with age. Let's hope they have the longevity of the Rolling Stones... Hey, did anybody notice Kirk's receding hairline in the FOTW video? Farkin' funny, I reckon.
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 08/03/2008 06:32 PM EST
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Happy Birthday, Het! 45 years young! I like today's free FOTW with them playing/discussing some of the Unforgiven III. My legs aren't forgiving me after hiking in the TN mountains. I feel like I have the legs of a 90-year old right now.
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 08/03/2008 07:20 PM EST
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Yeah, me too... except obviously, because I live in Australia, it was a different mountain. Hey, does anyone else have trouble with the MM FOTW videos? They never play straight through for me, they just jump around and start/stop. Maybe it's just my bandwidth...
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 08/03/2008 09:05 PM EST
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yeah its a bandwidth problem.... they changed the size and quality of the videos just recently so I do get more playing time between breaks, but it's still annoying as shit
Posted by Tony @ 08/03/2008 09:33 PM EST
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Just when you thought you had nothing more to live for. Enter MetallicA and instantly you have something worth living for, HELL YEAH!!! We're all one minute closer to DEATH MAGNETIC...SEPT. 12th, that is so awesome!!! Having a solid release date, makes the wait a hell of a lot easier. Fuckin' fantastic news!
Posted by One Minute Closer To Death... @ 08/03/2008 11:09 PM EST
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Let's all try and stay alive until then, it'll be well worth it. I promise.
Posted by One Minute Closer To Death... @ 08/03/2008 11:22 PM EST
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Mark my words... I will not die before September 12. I won't allow it!
Posted by Tipper @ 08/04/2008 12:04 AM EST
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Can't wait for the video of The Day That never Comes. Hopefully That Day Will Come soon. (Cheesy But True)!!
Posted by ole @ 08/04/2008 05:53 AM EST
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Now we can count the days. Isn't it pretty unusual for a disc to be released on a friday? Back to the Rob issue, I never tend to use the word "best" for any musician or group. It's all to ones' taste. My favorite band is metallica, but there are a shitload just a notch below to me. I certainly think Rob is a great player, as is Geddy Lee, as is Flea, and they play very differnt music. Who cares? As long as our guys can write good shit and play their asses off, that's all we need.
Posted by kurt @ 08/04/2008 09:59 AM EST
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metallica fuckin' rules
Posted by Tony @ 08/04/2008 11:09 AM EST
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Anyone got the last metallica mailing list e-mail about Death MAgnetic?It has a preview od the Death Magnetic Metalli-Skinz.I like the photo and the coffins but i don't like fonts.Anyway,September 12 really seems like it's the day that never comes because of the anticipation!
Posted by Jesius @ 08/04/2008 02:18 PM EST
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Anyone from Colorado Springs? Apocalyptica is playing tomorrow at the black sheep. I'll give you guys a full report.
Posted by edubbs @ 08/04/2008 06:06 PM EST
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I have to say that after seeing the Aug 3rd FOTW clip, I'm starting to change my mind about the Unforgiven III. I think that the weakness of Unforgiven 2 really left a sour taste in my mouth, after the masterpiece that was the first Unforgiven, but now I'm thinking that Unforgiven III may just redeem the boys after all.
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 08/04/2008 07:06 PM EST
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I keep looking at the comments from the Rob debate and then I go look in the mirror and say "Azrael, how bout you have a nice big cup of shut the f up?" I really wasn't trolling for a debate, and I stepped on the heretical ground of suggesting that Rob is a better bass player now than Cliff was at the time of his death. I think that Cliff was one of the most innovative bass players ever, and from that perspective, I agree with Caspian that it's not all about technique (Hendrix-yay vs. Malmsteen-yawn.) I was making the point that Rob is better technical player than Jason was (although I think Jason was a better showman, particularly in the singing-I hope no one gets offended and argues with that one.) My concern is that by James saying "Rob has contributed more already than Jason did in 15 years with the band" I think there's going to be a bit of a return to "ex-bandmember bashes band and band bashes back" sort of stuff, which will be sad to see. I think I've seen another version of the same quote where James said "partially because we wouldn't let him" but leaving that kind of qualifier off the quote is good for journalists because it feeds the feud. I didn't properly qualify my comments and completely undermined my message, which wasn't all that profound to begin with. On the topic of bass players, it's kind of a funny thing, because except for Primus and Rush concerts, no one is there to see the bass solo. Bass players mostly fit into the background and compliment what the music is doing instead of taking center stage. I guess it's a testament to Cliff that when he was alive, people WERE there to see his solo. So I'll hopefully end this boring debate (which is really just one way of killing time until there is a single) with a nod to the fact that Rob will never be as influential or as fun to listen to play as Cliff was.
Posted by Azrael @ 08/04/2008 09:19 PM EST
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Has anyone heard anymore about the coffin box set?
Posted by metal in AR @ 08/04/2008 11:00 PM EST
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Edubbs... yay yay! hahaha. I'm in Denver. I saw Apocolyptica with lame ass local bands flobots, and even lamer crabs on broadway. Apocolyptica is very interesting and entertaining. Should be worth checking out.
Posted by MOTORBREATH666 @ 08/05/2008 12:32 AM EST
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Loving that James comment at the end of that "making of.." video. No soapboxing= good times all round.
Posted by caspian @ 08/05/2008 02:30 AM EST
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yeah I liked that comment too. Just shows how cool Het is. No ego, just a normal person who loves his family and loves to make music. Wonder how long it is till someone asks him about the follow-up to Death Magnetic? You gotta think they have a bunch of excess songs/material/riffs that they polish and turn into great songs. So is there any thought from anyone that there will be a leakage of a song before the album hits the shelves? I bet there will be something that gets out. Too many snakes out there looking for attention. Maybe the janitor on the set of the video shoot with a camera phone. Sept. 12 is soooo far away.
Posted by The General @ 08/05/2008 08:45 AM EST
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True, General, Sept 12th does feel a ways away, but Ozzfest is only 4 days away, and I am crossing my fingers that they play something new then. I know they said before they would play something indoors, so, does anyone here know if any of the 7 remaining shows are indoors? I know Ozzfest and the festivals are outdoors, but what about the other venues?
Posted by D-J @ 08/05/2008 09:15 AM EST
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I've been convinced for a long time that Ozzfest will be the time for unveiling the single, but now that it's close, I think we won't hear anything there first. They will want the first listen to the new single to be the studio version, not something that could potentially have mistakes and bad sound production to get posted all over YouTube. I'll be thrilled if it happens, but I'm betting against, unless it makes it to the radio in the next few days.
Posted by Azrael @ 08/05/2008 09:35 AM EST
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They said they were going to play new songs, plural, live, not a song, so what if they play something else off the album live? Or better yet, what about track 11 that they cut off the album due to time constraints? James could say "good news, we are gonna play a new song now, bad news, this is the one thats NOT on Death Magnetic."
Posted by D-J @ 08/05/2008 10:02 AM EST
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MOTORBREATH666- The Jack Mehoff Project will be there with Apocalyptica. No idea what that will be like. Tickets are $15, so that really can't be beat for a concert now days.
Posted by edubbs @ 08/05/2008 11:21 AM EST
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I just wonder when and if we'll hear the other 4 songs they recorded. I hope those get released somehow/somewhere.
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 08/05/2008 11:23 AM EST
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Holy Shit! Rick Rubin is in the new FOTW video! He's helping produce this album??
Sarcasm
Posted by Dave @ 08/05/2008 05:11 PM EST
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Totally off topic….here is the link to some “secret” videos from the Colombian military planning the rescue of 3 American citizens, 11 cops and 1 politician from the hands of FARC (the biggest guerrilla in the world) after more than five years of being held against their will (for the Americans, more than 10 years for some of the cops)…. I just thought that it was interesting to hear that military from my country listen to Metallica and Pink Floyd while editing these videos….here’s a toast for freedom!!!
Just for the record, I’m not trying to sell any political ideas or anything like that …. I know for a fact that Lars hated when American military used Don’t Tread on Me on Guantanamo or something, but trust me as a Colombian citizen its very hard not to feel happy when our military gives this fuckers some of their own medicine. All and all to me the thing that matters the most is freedom for the people who deserve it.
One more thing…music form the boys was only used while editing the videos and NOT in the actual rescue mission…cheers!
http://elespectador.com.co/video-operacion-jaque-parte1
Posted by EPDA @ 08/05/2008 05:13 PM EST
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I don't think we are gonna listen any of the other songs at least now.They've never done it and it's sth they don't like to do.That's the reason they put on the singles,cover songs or live versions not like other bands that put songs that didn't make it to the album.Because if they didn't make it to the album they are not as good as the others.Maybe we'll listen to those songs after they retire
Posted by Jesius @ 08/05/2008 06:04 PM EST
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wow... I thought the M:M site was a tease, and then I watched today's FOTW and... wtf? why even post that? I want to hear riffs and roundtable discussions, and see concepts for artwork... not watch Lars walk around the studio. (literally)
Posted by Tipper @ 08/05/2008 07:10 PM EST
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You guys keep referring to the songs that got cut from the album and wanting to hear them... Well, there are two issues here. 1. We haven't even heard the album yet, so let's not get caught up in the songs that DIDN'T make it; and 2. Obviously, they were cut from the album for a reason - i.e. they weren't good enough. I'd rather hear the best songs that they can produce and NOT hear songs that were not good enough to make the album, than hear a bunch of mediocre songs that were just given a spit and polish and chucked on to a CD. That would be just like Re-Load all over again. So let's hope that there is never a Re-Magnetic.
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 08/05/2008 09:31 PM EST
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They narrowed down to 14, but only recorded 11. So, as far as the three that didn't get recorded, we'll probably never hear them, unless they work on one for a movie or something. So, all I was referring to was the 1 song that HAD to be cut due to length issues, otherwise, it was going to be on Death Magnetic. It could be released as a B-side, for all we know. I doubt they will keep that track tucked away for long. Its just we aren't hearing about it because the big news is the album itself. Once they get DM out, I am 100% positive they will release that other tune, its just a matter of when. They aren't gonna sit on something they recorded and never put it out there.
Posted by D-J @ 08/05/2008 10:41 PM EST
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I almost wonder if they're saving what few songs they cut for the Guitar Hero / Rock Band stuff....
Posted by Tipper @ 08/06/2008 12:05 AM EST
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That makes a lot of sense. If they can't fit it on the album, or chose not to include it on the record, then the next best thing would be to put it on Guitar Hero / Rock Band
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 08/06/2008 12:15 AM EST
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Just got back from Apocalyptica. What an awesome show. Those guys are good. They played all their latest hits, a Slayer song, and a few 'Tallica songs. They played Enter Sandman, Fight Fire With Fire, and their encore consisted of Seek and Destroy, Nothing Else Matters, and the amazing Hall of Mountain King. The singer for I'm not Jesus and I don't Care was some guy I've never heard of from Louisiana. He did a pretty good job as well.
Posted by edubbs @ 08/06/2008 01:39 AM EST
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I would take metallica's b-sides/not good enough for the new record type tunes any day. Hell, I'm still itching to hear the presidio stuff.
Posted by kurt @ 08/06/2008 08:32 AM EST
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1st Harvester is so right, Reload was B-Sides in my eyes. I still think Load is a great album and listen to it just as much as the older albums, I am not a complete "metalhead" though so what do I know. I can see them using one song for a movie
Posted by marcus @ 08/06/2008 09:02 AM EST
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i disagree, all the songs from the loads were recorded in the same time period, they released load with the ones that were finished...i dont understand whats the problem with reload, it sounds good to me...
Posted by xino @ 08/06/2008 10:22 AM EST
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Regardless, I want to hear all Metallica music and then I can decide if I like it or not. I too would still like to hear Presidio stuff.
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 08/06/2008 11:09 AM EST
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isn't that a van halen song they're jamming to?
Posted by hetfield on drums @ 08/06/2008 11:39 AM EST
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It must be a van Halen tune as James makes a comment as such. A while back I posted them all switching instruments for a live performance of Am I Evil? Did you guys see this?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gGJ_bjn6QU Lars singing, James drumming, Kirk playing bass, and Jason doing lead! This is awesome! Not too many bands do that sorta thing.
Posted by D-J @ 08/06/2008 11:41 AM EST
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I like a lot of ReLoad, and some reload songs better than Load songs. However, I think it is just a bunch of positive spin to say they were just the songs that weren't finished yet. I never fully bought that argument. It's not like they went back in and spent a ton of time to finish them up for reload. I think they picked the best and/or best mix of songs for Load, then put rest, including a couple that may not had yet been finished, on Reload. I'm not complaining, I've listened to Reload plenty of times, I just never fully bought in to the line of the Reload tunes just not being done yet.
Posted by kurt @ 08/06/2008 12:40 PM EST
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How about that MM clip on the 5th for that "Holy Revolver" song. Which ever song it is on the cd. Sweet clip!
Posted by Nick @ 08/06/2008 02:11 PM EST
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They are playing "Somebody Get Me A Doctor" from Van Halen II in General's video.
Posted by EET FUK @ 08/06/2008 05:13 PM EST
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that 11th song will be used somehow with that flashdrive that comes with the boxset I bet. What other reason are they giving you a flashdrive for????
Posted by NoCreativeNameGuy @ 08/06/2008 07:07 PM EST
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Hmmm... plausible
Posted by Harvester of Sorrow @ 08/06/2008 07:31 PM EST
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prob extra song when u buy from itunes, b-sides, etc...
also on the videos lars mentions 14 songs, is it possible that they recorded 14 instead of 11?? i know they say they dropped the list to 11 but still he keeps mentioning 14 recorded songs
Posted by xino @ 08/06/2008 07:40 PM EST
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If memory serves me correct, they recorded 14, but due to the length of a CD, they could only get 10 songs on there. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. That's why there's an "encumbered" version of The Outlaw Torn as a B-side. They did some editing on the song to make it fit on the CD. If they just released it on DVD like the 5.1 DVD of the Black album, they'd eliminate that issue. I'm sure it's cheaper to do it this way, however. Just my thoughts.
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 08/06/2008 10:57 PM EST
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Are you guys sure he said they "recorded" 14? I thought they whittled the list down to 14, but only "recorded" 11.
Posted by D-J @ 08/07/2008 07:09 AM EST
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Well who cares really, how bout I want just 1 song right now, let alone talking about some songs we wont even hear this year. Speaking of which, does anybody think there's the slightest chance they debut a new song at Ozfest this weekend.....I dont personally but somebody on the board be optimistic so I have something to look forward to this weekend possibly.
Posted by Marcus @ 08/07/2008 07:54 AM EST
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I think that they will debut a new song at OzFest. They will certainly stat playing new stuff on the last leg of the European tour. But may leave it to the UK festival dates.
Posted by F1XXX3R @ 08/07/2008 08:03 AM EST
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I hope they play a new song at Ozzfest, but at this point, it will not surprise me even a little bit if they don't. But if they don't at Ozzfest, we're still only days away from hearing something live at one of the other shows, assuming they DO actually play something live before the album comes out, like they said they would.
Posted by D-J @ 08/07/2008 11:23 AM EST
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i dont know but a have a feeling that "The Day That Never Comes"
is the holy revolver
Posted by Kotrinio @ 08/07/2008 01:31 PM EST
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I will make u a guarantee 'The Day That Never Comes" is NOT the holy revolver song. It doesn't fit the description one bit.
Posted by Nick @ 08/07/2008 01:36 PM EST
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Holy Revolver = Suicide & Redemption
Posted by Nik @ 08/07/2008 04:19 PM EST
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Holy Revolver is the 11th song. They can play so much of it because they know they aren't giving away anything from the album. There, I've stated my theory as fact, I win the Internet.
Posted by Azrael @ 08/07/2008 06:44 PM EST
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I think Azrael has a point. Although we will hear it sooner or later but might not be on DM.
Posted by MONSTER @ 08/07/2008 06:59 PM EST
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LOL @ Azreal's last comment
Posted by Blaster of Muppets @ 08/07/2008 07:51 PM EST
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I just wish they had kept song titles like Glass Cow and called the album Floods of Vomit... I imagine a Pushead drawing on the front that would kick my expectations ass! :)
Posted by Tipper @ 08/07/2008 10:17 PM EST
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A thought on the tour. Most major tours have at least a couple of months of time between the on-sale date and the time of the concert. For me, the Metallica show I saw in 2004 went on sale four months before the concert took place. So with that said, assuming we are going to get dates in October and November, I would assume we'll start hearing about them pretty soon. Within the next couple weeks.
Posted by Trace @ 08/07/2008 11:44 PM EST
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Anyone else can't listen back to the 7th of july FOTW? i could only listen to it one time that day and even today it won't play...
Posted by Bleeding @ 08/08/2008 07:17 AM EST
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According to MTV, they are starting a North American tour October 20, no cities listed yet.
With the 20th anniversary of Justice as well, maybe we will see more songs from that album. Doubt they will play the whole thing though like they did for Puppets.
Posted by manguy @ 08/08/2008 09:09 AM EST
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Manguy, I just saw that bit(via blabbermouth-mtv) too. But as far as more justice tunes, they have been playing justice(song)lately. And one, blackened and harvester have been regulars for years. Dyers finally got some last tour. I would LOVE to hear the full versions of Frayed ends and To Live is to Die.
Posted by kurt @ 08/08/2008 12:23 PM EST
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More than anything, I just want to see greater variety in the setlists. Even with them changing up a few songs a night, the setlists as a whole have been pretty stagnant. Oh and if Oct 20th is the start of the tour, then we'll definitely be getting dates very soon.
Posted by Trace @ 08/08/2008 01:48 PM EST
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My suggestion for replacements of some of the "staples":
Sad But True--------- -Human
Creeping------------- TUI or Dyers
Nothing Else Matters-- bleeding me
They won't, and probably can't, ever drop sandman from the set.
I would also like a load/reload/disapear/st.anger medley
Posted by kurt @ 08/08/2008 03:17 PM EST
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Wow. I just saw the set times for Ozzfest. Do you people believe that Ozzy is opening for Metallica?!?! I mean, Ozzfest is Ozzy's show! He's NEVER opened for ANYONE at HIS show!!! That said, of course, I think Metallica SHOULD play last, I am just so surprised Ozzy relinquished that honor to them. Thats freaking cool.
Posted by D-J @ 08/08/2008 04:19 PM EST
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He's been doing that for the last couple of years pal get over it. I went to Ozzfest 2 years back and he actually played on the 2nd stage and System of A Down headlined, no big deal.
Posted by Marcus @ 08/08/2008 06:40 PM EST
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yeah, I remember that System headlined Ozzfest as well. He's not the main act, he just performs and as I understand it, it's an abbreviated setlist too. Still... for Metallica to have opened for Ozzy in 86 and now in 08 Ozzy opens for Metallica.. that's legendary to have them on stage 22 years later!
Posted by Tipper @ 08/08/2008 08:54 PM EST
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I wake up every damn morning wondering if today will be the day we hear the new single!!!!
I... just... can't... take... this waiting... anymore...
Posted by NoCreativeNameGuy @ 08/08/2008 10:39 PM EST
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I hate to be the one to get everyone's panties in a bunch but from the boys @ Metontour it sounds like they may have been rehearsing a new song to play tonite live in Dallas. If not, a very cruel joke and I'll be boycotting the site....until the next tour starts.
Posted by marcus @ 08/09/2008 08:39 AM EST
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anyone knows if there's gonna be a live streaming of ozzfest??
Posted by xino @ 08/09/2008 12:34 PM EST
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A new song would be very nice indeed
Posted by Cooper @ 08/09/2008 12:48 PM EST
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Hmm...I'm thinking song with Ozzy rather than a new song. I guess we'll see.
Posted by Trace @ 08/09/2008 01:30 PM EST
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It is now 6:24pm EST, just heard Kirk's interview on Sirius radio, sounds like we have a few surprises in store, one involving King Diamond. When asked if we were gonna hear some Death Magnetic, Kirk said "My lips are sealed." If thats not a "YES!" then I don't know what the fuck is!!!! Sign up for free on Sirius.com to listen to it like I am! They just ask your email address, they don't even get credit card info.
Posted by D-J @ 08/09/2008 06:26 PM EST
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Hey, I know this is once again just hopeful speculation but I just order the "experience 4" 5 lp vinyl boxset of mission metallica but don't really know what "5 lps" each with it own vinyl slip is supposed to mean. You could put this album out as a double album and if you wanted to be fancy you could make it a triple lp set, but you wouldn't need five lps. Any thoughts on this?
Posted by Insert Pen Name Here @ 08/09/2008 06:38 PM EST
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Listening to Sirius as well....maybe something wicked this way will come
Posted by Cooper @ 08/09/2008 09:14 PM EST
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They are interviwing Jaymes right now...
Posted by Cooper @ 08/09/2008 09:16 PM EST
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Jaymz mentioned teaming up with ESP for Guitar Hero/Rock Band so that should be cool to wield a nice explorer. Total of three bands for the US tour and one o them will be the sword...he did mention that they would be rotating bands in and out so we will so wont we boyz and girlz!!!! They hit the stage at 9:45
Posted by Cooper @ 08/09/2008 09:25 PM EST
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Is that two opening bands for every night or two opening bands that will be rotating through one opening slot on the various stops on the tour? I'd much prefer the latter.
Posted by Trace @ 08/09/2008 09:49 PM EST
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Oh, and for those of you waiting for Sirus to stream Metallica, it ain't gonna happen. So you can get on with your Saturday night, lol.
Posted by Trace @ 08/09/2008 10:05 PM EST
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Metallica is probably either on stage now or going to be in minutes... Now that I know I'm not gonna get to hear any new Metallica live tonight, I'm pretty jealous of all those lucky bastards that are there now... Oh well, if they DO play something new in the next two and a half hours, hopefully we'll get access to it sometime tomorrow at the latest...
Posted by D-J @ 08/09/2008 10:50 PM EST
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I can't get on the Metboard right now to see what's going on...
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 08/09/2008 11:02 PM EST
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Me neither. It sucks to think that as we sit here in front of our computers, there's a shitload of people there that are rocking out to Metallica right now. They could even be playing new shit right now as I type this. The only comforting thought is that we should know soon if they did play anything new. Somehow, the info will spread. I wonder how many recordings of any new material will end up on YouTube tomorrow... Maybe they'll get the soundboard recording up asap so we can get the good quality version of the show.
Posted by D-J @ 08/09/2008 11:15 PM EST
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Metboard is working for me again. There are about 5 topics asking the mods what happened to the board. No one has mentioned too much, though. Anyway, I remember Tenacious D is opening for the boys around the end of the month.
Posted by The Thing that should not be @ 08/09/2008 11:26 PM EST
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YouTube(and other places like that) is the exact reason why I never thought there was much chance of them playing a DM song live until right around now at the earliest. We'll see what happens tonight. With the message board on the official site acting the way it is, I guess we have to wait until MoT updates the setlist.
Posted by Trace @ 08/09/2008 11:30 PM EST
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Well, speaking of YouTube, everyone should check later tonight because MoT has confirmed that they indeed did play a new one....Cyanide
Posted by Trace @ 08/10/2008 12:08 AM EST
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First ever Death Magnetic song ever played: Cyanide. I had a feeling it would be that song. With a name like that, its probably that short, heavy, fast, to the point song they've been talking about. One more surprise left. Maybe they'll play another new song. Ok, let's see how many hours it takes for Cyanide to appear on YouTube. There's GOTTA be people there who recorded it. Let's see, Metallica plays from 9:45 to 11:15 pm... Assuming they end on time, assuming someone that recorded it lives nearby, give them about 30 min to get out of the parking lot, another 30 min home... Brings us to about 12:30 am... Give them some time to get song into a digital format suitable for uploading... Let's say 1am... Ok, now, I live in Florida, so adjusting for the timezone difference, I am gonna estimate 2am EST at the earliest for Cyanide to be on the internet...
Posted by D-J @ 08/10/2008 12:13 AM EST
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